This is true, Deb. I had an excellent working relationship with the local foot doc in Key West. He knew that when I sent someone in..there was a problem and he took it seriously. Unlike another doc that I sent someone to because of what appeared to be an infection of some sort. That guy? “So you’ve got a little fungus in your nails...everyone does! I even do! Don’t let some hysterical nail girl worry you...” Sheesh!
Karen From: Debbie Doerrlamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation! Maureen, Not all Dr's :) My podiatrist saw the improvement in my pincher toes and says he will be recommending it to patients in the future :) Some are forward thinking, some stuck in a hole, some want to sell stuff.. Debbie D At 08:38 AM 12/13/2011, you wrote: I have to bring up Anna's point of the decades long use of nail polish and nail problems. I have been a nail tech some 30+ years. Before that , I manicured my mom and aunt's and sisters nails all of the time with NO problem with the polish separating the nail from the bed. Manicurists 25 years and farther back didn't have the education available to them that we have now and clients didn't have all of the nail disorders that they have now. I will not go into a subject that will start another thread at this time so , just polish. With formaldehyde and toluene etc being removed polish doesn't t stay on the way it used to and everyone wants the polish to dry in 1/2 minute. Polish won't last, Now, the Dr thing. Dr's hate nail techs. I don't mean this in a literal sence so please don't chop my head. Just think about this.........the dr will tell almost every client I know to stop getting their nails done. They don't think beyond just what they see at the moment. I question my clients when or if they have a problem. The Dr will just look and form an opinion. I didn't offer an answer, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. Maureen Solan --- On Mon, 12/12/11, Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation! To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, December 12, 2011, 10:58 PM I think Anna has hit on the points I was planning on addressing: It seems to me that nail polish in its current form has been around for several decades and mulitple generations. If it was a proven fact that wearing nail polish consistantly led to onycholisis, I think more people would be aware of it by now. I fear that you have a podiatrist who is either biased against nail polish for whatever reason, or is woefully misinformed about polish. First, I would contact the podiatrist and have a serious professional to professional discussion with her. But I think you may want to consider finding a different doctor to set up a referral business with. Maggie Franklin: Owner & Artist, The Art of Nailz, Visalia CA "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time." Maggie Rants [and Raves]@Nails Magazine Facebook From: Anna Z-James <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 10:53 AM Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation! Not exactly sure that using polish could cause any type of damage to that degree? After centuries of using polish oddly enough most of the problems have surfaced in the last 20 years or so. Most of the problems started because of lack of education in cleanliness and sanitation. I agree with Katherine unless the person is allergic I can't see where polish could cause such horrific separation. Before you start to recommend your clients to this doctor I'd make sure you all have an agreed arrangement of information that is passed on to your clients. Mainly due in part by the fact that most people will take the information of a doctor over yours, there causing the loss of a client to that doctor and the services and information that is offered to them. Best of Luck with that situation. Anna Creations by Anna Z-James www.annazjames.com 702-927-8831 -----Original Message----- From: Katherine Fahrig <[email protected]> To: nailtech <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 9:21 am Subject: Re: NailTech:: huh..polish causes nail separation! My guess would be that she is talking about the 3 free polishes being the " healthy " polish. I have not heard of nail polish of any kind causing nail plate separation unless it is an allergic reaction. If you want a referral relationship with this podiatrist perhaps you can get some info printed out from the Internet and educate her. Show her what you do and products that you use and ask her what she tells her clients. Have industry printouts to back up your products and procedures. You know what? I think that is a good idea, I am going to do the same. I'll post what info I print out and where I find it. Anyone else have a "healthy pedicure hand book" that they have put together? Does beautytech.com have one? I will look. Katherine St. Louis, MO Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:24 AM, holly cliffe <wlmailhtml:/mc/[email protected]> wrote: > I recently referred a client to a podiatrist. I am hoping that in the New Year I will start working with this podiatrist on a sort of internship and then establish a referral system with her. I referred my client because her toe nails are separating from the nail bed, and taking on a new shape.....and it's really bothering her. Several years ago she went through a round of aggressive chemo and that's when I first started noticing a difference in the nail. I believe the problem is connected to that, I don't think there is any fungus growing under there. > > The podiatrist is testing for fungus, but she advised my client that if she is wearing "nail polish" all the time that this could have caused the problem, and mentioned that she has seen this many times before. Her recommendation was to either stop wearing polish or go to the health food store and get some "healthy" polish. I believe she is talking about polishes with formaldehyde, toluene and DBP. So, I hadnt heard that these chemicals caused nail plate separation but that's interesting to know. The doc said that the chemicals penetrate the nail plate and seep into the soft tissue of the nail bed, cause this separation and also get into the blood stream. > > I've used OPI, CND polishes for many years (and I believe they've been 3 free for many years). These days I seldom use polish.....most toes I do are Shellac or gel/glitter and I believe that is also "3 free" > > Anyone know anything about this? > > Holly Cliffe > Holly Cliffe Nail Design > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to wlmailhtml:/mc/[email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wlmailhtml:/mc/[email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to wlmailhtml:/mc/[email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wlmailhtml:/mc/[email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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