Hi Christine, That is absolutely correct and it states it on the website that students can't call the state boards because it slows down progress or business. I thought that was crazy as well. So any and all things dealing with the state test must come through the school. Someone on the boards recommended I start a school and after this incident, I am seriously thinking about it. I would never want anyone to experience this. Below is the information from the state website.
"Students will not be permitted to contact the LSBC under any circumstances. Students are to contact their respective schools for any information pertaining to testing (scores, test dates, cancellation or rescheduling, etc.). The school is to then contact the office via fax. This procedure is necessary due to the influx of arbitrary phone calls that come into the office, which interrupts the flow of production. This is also an effort to maintain the relationship between the "graduated student and its graduating school". Some students are under the assumption that they have the authority to override the school and clear themselves. " On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > You can't call the State because you're a student??? That's crap! In > Tennessee, I called and asked questions beside the fact that you pay them > And the testing place to take the written & practical here. Here, I had to > bring a live model to work on...couldn't be in cosmetology in any way....I > had only been living here 2 years and didn't know anyone but fellow > students so I brought my husband!!!!! (Such a good sport...lol!!) I called > the state and asked if I could use him as my model and they said yes. I was > never deterred from contacting them....have you tried to call them??? > > I too was an only student, basically teaching myself but I passed with > flying colors because I worked my butt off on my own. Some of these schools > are all about profit and they suck. Your experience is all too common. I > am determined to open a Nails only school in the future when I'm tired of > working in a salon!! I think it's so badly needed....just to have it all be > nails and real nail techs as instructors!! > > Good luck and keep us posted....oh and by the way-the trainer hand was the > best investment I ever made in my education...even if you cant use it for > your test...please keep it and never stop learning....😄 > > Christine > > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 4:52 PM, CloserToMyDreams < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Katherine! I did a mock practical with my instructor and passed > so I definitely thought it would be easy breezy at the boards. I've had so > many disputes with the school that I just enter with my guard up all of the > time if I need to discuss anything. Thank you for the feedback. > DeVaria > > On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:52:05 PM UTC-5, Katherine Fahrig wrote: >> >> State boards are morons. >> >> Unfortunately, they hold the power over your license so you must do as >> they say. Your school did not prepare you properly. When I apprenticed my >> employee I taught her the way to do clients nails correctly. When it came >> time for her to take her state boards I got her kit ready for her and went >> through it step by step with the instructions that the state board had >> given me in my apprenticeship package and then gave her a "mock" board >> exam. I made sure that she knew exactly what the state board practical exam >> would require. >> >> Your school is at fault for not properly preparing their student (you). >> DO write to your state board complaining about your school, DO send/take a >> written letter with your complaint to the school and make sure that they >> know that you will be filing a complaint with the BBB and the State board >> of Cosmetology if they do not supply you with the correct training to pass >> the state board. THAT IS THEIR JOB! To provide you with the hours and >> training to pass the state board exam! That is what you paid them for! I >> would demand that THEY pay for you to retake the test. It was their fault >> that you failed. >> >> Now, just to clarify the whole tip on a sculptured nail thing, the old >> fingers/hands that were used for testing need to have a plastic tip glued >> over the entire nail bed of the practice hand, shortened down to the end of >> the finger, to simulate a nail plate. I do not remember why, just that it >> had to be done. Stupid, I know, but the state board holds the power over >> your license, just do it the way they say, get your license and give them >> the finger after you have that piece of paper in your hand. >> >> Katherine >> St. Louis, MO >> >> ------------------------------ >> * From: * Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]>; >> * To: * [email protected] <[email protected]>; >> * Subject: * Re: NailTech:: Took my State Boards--not what I expected >> * Sent: * Wed, Jun 26, 2013 7:13:57 PM >> >> Yeesh. >> >> What state are you in? >> >> I know you've posted before about being frustrated with your school, but >> honestly, you'd probably be frustrated with any school because there are SO >> few of them that offer the type of training and eduction most of us expect >> when we enroll. >> >> As for the trainer hand, it actually sounds like this is a case where >> your SCHOOL is WAY AHEAD OF your STATE BOARD! >> >> Unfortunately, the St. Board holds all the cards on this one, so it >> doesn't matter that THEY are the ones who are IGNORANT-- you're gonna have >> to do it again and do it they're way. And your school should have a better >> grasp on what the Board expects so they can prepare students for that >> experience. It doesn't really matter, in the long run, that the trainer is >> a better device. >> >> BUT!! FIGHT IT!! Send pictures of your hand to the St. Board! Send a >> LONG, carefully written letter to the St. Board! TELL THEM exactly what you >> experienced and WHY you were told you failed the exam and let them know >> that their examiners are the ones who are wrong on this one! That the nail >> trainer meets their criteria for the exam and that you performed the >> service correctly but that the EXAMINER was the weak link. And that the St. >> Board NEEDS to address this before they continue to erroneously fail >> students just for being more competent than the examiners. >> >> Seriously-- ANYONE who knows *@&!^@!! about sculpting nails would be able >> to wrap their brain around your sculptured nail without a tip. DUH! They >> should be able to SEE and COMPREHEND the structure of the nail trainer and >> SEE and COMPREHEND the structure of your sculpted nail and "grade" you on >> your work based on that comprehension. It sounds like the examiner you >> spoke with understood why tips are usually used for that service and >> understood that a true sculptured nail shouldn't use a tip-- so if they can >> clearly see that your practice hand didn't NEED a tip for that service, why >> would you get marked down for doing it properly? >> >> OK. Now I'm all worked up. >> >> But DO contact your St. Board, write/call/email as many people in the >> organization as you can get contact info for, make sure they get their >> story straight so this doesn't happen to others! >> >> OH! And as for your "unprofessional texts" PHOOEY! Stand up to your >> school! Put your foot down, look them in the eye, and let them know in no >> uncertain terms that THEY work for YOU! Don't let them intimidate or bully >> you. >> >> As for the texting? It's not YOUR issue that their student was >> interrupted during class by your texts. It's HER phone, it's up to HER to >> silence it and it's HER choice if she reads/answers texts or calls during >> class. Frankly, it sounds like using cell phones was never an issue during >> class before or for anyone else, so they don't get to start nitpicking this >> time. But if they're going to be mad at anyone, it should be the student in >> the class who didn't turn off her phone, NOT the person who texted her. >> >> Not that I'm trying to pin it on your friend-- sounds like it's a GOOD >> thing she got that text so SHE can deliver the news to the class since the >> school and the state board don't seem to be on the same page. >> >> Now go contact your state board and send them all those pictures of the >> nail trainer! >> >> Maggie Franklin: >> Owner & Artist, The Art of Nailz <http://artofnailz.info/>, Visalia CA >> * "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time." >> *Maggie Rants [and Raves]@Nails Magazine <http://blogs.nailsmag.com/maggie/> >> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/onykophile> >> >> >> *From:* CloserToMyDreams <[email protected]**> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:04 AM >> *Subject:* NailTech:: Took my State Boards--not what I expected >> >> Hello everyone! >> Yesterday, I traveled 4 hours for my state boards. I was a bit nervous >> because it was finally time to do this!! I arrived early, and was speaking >> with a staff member and he told me there were three tests--a state, a >> national and a practical. I was shocked because the entire time at school >> I was only informed of a state exam. So naturally I became anxious. I >> texted my classmate and told her that I was told about a national exam and >> she was like, "what?" I reviewed the practice 10 questions online and began >> to think that I probably should have focused a bit more on natural >> sciences. Oh well, I was there, I read my chapters so I would just go with >> it. I get inside and we are to take our practical first. I see the other >> candidates pull out the individual fingers. The examiner walks by each and >> then when he gets to me and sees my "nail trainer" he jumps back and says, >> "whoa, what is that?" I told him it is the hand we use at school and I was >> told I could bring it. He then says, "sometimes schools don't know what >> the hell they are talking about." He then asks me where are my clear tips? >> I tell him that I have them to place on the hand. So now, I'm even more >> NERVOUS!!! We begin the practical which is 45 minutes to do a tip with >> overlay, a sculptured nail and a repair. I perform all of those with time >> to spare. As the examiners come to me again, I get puzzled looks from the >> both of them. We begin our written exams and while taking it, another >> examiner comes up and asks to borrow my hand. He takes it behind the >> podium and they gather around and begin speaking. This is awful for >> testing, anxiety and nervousness and it's difficult for me to focus because >> I am now trying to figure out what is going on. So I finish the written >> exams--both state and national. I'm feeling good about the two and during >> my checkout, I ask the examiner what is their concern about the nail >> trainer. He says, "well, next time, you want to put clear tips on all of >> the fingers...I'm not supposed to be talking to you about that but next >> time" I can't even remember what he said after that because all I heard was >> "NEXT TIME." I pointed that out to him and said, "sir, you said "next >> time" so that means I failed." He nodded yes. I leave out and just sit in >> my car. I'm going through the steps in my head, I refer to my book and yes >> I followed all steps. He comes outside and I stop him. "Sir, I hate to >> disturb you but could you tell me what was wrong with the hand." He says >> that I should have put the tip to the cuticle area on all three fingers. He >> said he couldn't see the tip on my sculpted nail. I told him that a >> sculpted nail doesn't include a tip, it's free formed. He said yes, but >> when candidates bring in the fingers or even the rubber hand, they have to >> attach the tip to it, then cut it down then sculpt over it so that I can >> see where the sculpting started. I told him that there is no need for that >> on the nail trainer because of the anatomical set up of the nail plate. He >> told me that that is what I will need to do on my next test. I went back >> to my car and cried. I thought all of this would be over on that day. I >> was hoping my experience with the ill-equipped school was over. I just >> didn't have anything else in me. I cried for a long time. I told my >> classmate to just buy the fingers for her test, forget the hand, I didn't >> want them to experience this. She told the instructor who then told the >> school owner who then called boards and they told her that I had a painted >> hand and that is why I failed. My classmate then told the instructor how I >> felt that we were not prepared for the boards and how I felt frustrated >> that the hand they told me was appropriate was not familiar to the >> examiners. I took a pic of the nail trainer to prove that I did not have a >> "painted hand." My classmate showed it to them. Today, I called the school >> and spoke with the owner because I was tired of third party back and forth. >> I explained my situation and she was more interested in defending the >> school. She said that I shouldn't have texted my classmate and stressed >> them out while they were at school. My classmate texted me how I was doing >> and asked for updates. When we talked, she excused herself from the >> building. For those who are unfamiliar with my backstory, I go to a school >> where we read the chapter and then ask the instructor for an answer sheet >> and take the test. We do not have real theory courses, it is mostly >> independent study. I did not have an instructor who guided me daily and a >> lot of the things I learned were from watching education ambassadors on you >> tube, through forums and by reading my text. So it is not as if my texts >> interrupted class or if my classmate excused herself from class. We sit in >> a room, usually talking to each other and that didn't happen for me until I >> only had 2 months left because before then I was the only nail tech >> student. >> Well, the owner then tells me how I was unprofessional to text my >> classmate and I told her that I was giving my friend the heads up so that >> she would not experience it. I then informed her that I believed it was >> unprofessional for my school not to contact me after they heard about my >> board fiasco. She told me she didn't appreciate me saying that to her. She >> proceeded to raise her voice and over talk me. She ended with that there >> was nothing she could do until she received my results and we would proceed >> from there. I agreed. I sent a pic to my classmate of the hand and she >> showed the instructor who became frustrated because she didn't understand >> why they would fail me because I didn't apply a tip for a sculptured nail. >> I'm feeling pretty down, a day later. I'm not as upset but to know that I >> will have to drive 4 hours again, pay again and continue to deal with this >> school is upsetting. I will purchase the fingers for next time and >> hopefully, whenever I receive the results (I have to call the school every >> Friday to see if they received my results), I hope the test date is soon. >> I sent off for boards in May and received a test date for June 25. Since >> I probably won't be able to send off until July, I probably won't get a >> date until August and I had expected to have moved back to Florida by then >> and do reciprocity. This is so unfortunate :'-( I've attached a photo of my >> nail trainer and the work for state boards. I'm just coming out of school >> so it won't be as spectacular as what you guys are doing. 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