On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:42:00PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> > 
> > > One of the reasons why these spots are in the LACNIC region
> > > is language. They don't speak english.
> > 
> > OH MY GHOD!  HEATHENS!  let's bomb them quickly.
> > 
> 
> We already did

seriously?  my family in santo domingo never told me that the US was
bombing them.  

this worry about language is certainly an issue, but it's also
manageable.  apricot/ripe/afnog/etc manage to hold meetigs with
substantially larger population that is non-native english speaking.
and there are lots of native spanish-speakers in nanog as well.

>, and, there are many factors that predispose this to a bad idea
> including language.  You can start by lowering the $450 fee if
> things are so rosy that you have time, energy, and funds to start 
> transporting 
> meetings thousands of miles away.

what rubbish. just as a relevant sampling:

bos <-> sdq is 2663 km
lax <-> yyz is 3492 km
ord <-> sdq is 3134 km
mia <-> sdq is 1362 km
bos <-> lax is 4191 km

lots of people from LA came to toronto (yes, they complained about the
weather.  no, they didn't complain about the distance). many of us
flew to nanog in LA and didnt' complain about the distance.  distance
is an issue, but thousands of miles away it is not.

> It might be smarter to test the waters with a smaller, shorter, meeting that
> doesn't impact the way we usually do business. At least if we find out that
> we're not really wanted and nobody local will show up, it won't hurt so much.
> We ignored that part of 'our area' until 2007 so holding a mini-meeting is 
> not going to slow anything down.

so marty doesn't want to go to a nanog in santo domingo.  point
taken.  cat thinks travel policies and corporate attitudes will be an
issue.  i think jared thinks that, too.  many other people say that
the location sounds really appealing, that the outreach opportunity is
appealing, and that the costs would be overall lower than many
us-based locations.  

joe:  hopefully you're getting good feedback for the sc.

t.

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