On 4/9/25 21:13, Gary Sparkes wrote:

I would say that NMC is older than LFP because it was invented far beforehand. 
It's what enabled the transition off of NiMH and NiCAD - invented sometime 
around the 1980s. I've got many examples from the late 90s and early 2000s, one 
of my favorite being the iPaq 3850 sitting on my desk (and of course, tons and 
tons of cellular phones). But that's obviously not stationary....

LiFePo4 is far newer - late 90s/early 2000s - and not commercially viable until 
later.

LFP makes more sense in a lot of applications because of voltages - it can be a 
"drop in" replacement for 12V systems due to the 3.2V nominal - and 
lifespan/cycle count.

But NMC was commercialized far earlier in fixed storage, mostly apparent to me 
in the availability of house-scale lithium battery systems/solar, lithium UPS 
market at all scales, from 1U / switch rack units to full scall datacenter 
deployments. And Including according to some cursory research, grid-scale power 
systems as well - as LiFePo4 tech is still relatively new and developing.

EV usage was more a selection because of density, but not a driver of that 
density development. Even EVs are moving in the LFP direction for safety 
reasons as that technology evolves. EVs using non-NMC existed before as well, 
due to technology limitations and evolution.

Largely agree, yes.


Schneider's forecast in 2017 or 2018 for 40% of the datacenter market to be 
lithium based by around 2025.

It's going to be a mind shift... like moving network operators across from 100G-LR4 plugs to 100G-FR1. Seems obvious, but is unnecessarily complicated :-).

Mark.
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