We are getting closer to dual stacking our subs.  In the meantime, adding mams 
interfaces from a new ms-mpc-128g card, into the existing ams0 interface, thus 
doubling the cgnat capacity, was as easy as adding a Ethernet link to and ae 
bundle interface.

Aaron

> On Jun 19, 2025, at 5:43 PM, Niels Bakker via NANOG <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'll bite:
> 
> * Forrest Christian [Fri 20 Jun 2025, 00:06 CEST]:
>> I don't want to restart the recurring argument, but I'll just put this out 
>> there: Why bother adding the cost of supporting a dual-stack network when 
>> there is precisely zero cost for me to stick with IPv4? From a cost 
>> perspective, if I have to assign everyone an IPv4 address and an IPv6 
>> address to deploy IPv6, why would I bother assigning the IPv6 address?
> 
> What if everybody thought that way? Would we ever get to a position where we 
> could even consider turning off IPv4 altogether?
> 
> (We must consider eventually turning off IPv4. We've run out twice now, the 
> first time we innovated our way out with CIDR, the second time there's no 
> other option on the table but IPv6. The lack of IPv4 is currently a global 
> drag on non-financial innovation.)
> 
> 
>> I have plenty of addresses to continue handing out IPv4 addresses directly 
>> to customers for at least several years, so there is no benefit to me in 
>> adding the overhead of dealing with both IPv6 and IPv4 on a per-customer 
>> basis simultaneously.
> 
> For now. While your competitors are gaining valuable experience with IPv6. 
> And put some customers behind CGNAT, freeing up IPv4 addresses they can 
> monetise in different ways, like sell or rent out as subnets.
> 
> Have fun scaling your CGNAT boxes to all the traffic from the customer base 
> you'll eventually have to put behind them. If you had run dual stack then a 
> lot of traffic wouldn't need to traverse them.
> 
> 
>    -- Niels.
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