Well, primarily it's the voice service that needs troubleshooting, which is 
harder to do in the fashion you describe. I just figured Internet service was 
cheap enough if you were already getting voice.

Although that does give me an idea on the Internet... get a line on each and 
then put a Mikrotik or Raspberry Pi and a RIPE probe on each. Then anything I 
could likely ever want to test, including making a testing platform available 
to the rest of the world. That isn't a very high number of test points on each 
of those networks.



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Petach" <[email protected]>
To: "North American Network Operators Group" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>, "Mike Hammett" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2025 8:20:36 PM
Subject: Re: Genius or Ridiculous?




Could you leverage the RIPE Atlas probe infrastructure to give you the answers 
you need? 
There are probes on Comcast (868), Frontier (15), AT&T (46), Verizon (54), 
T-mobile (29). 


What types of troubleshooting do you generally need to do? 


Matt 




On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 1:53 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG < [email protected] 
> wrote: 


Sure, but then I have to bother other people. That's what I'm doing now, but it 
kinda sucks asking someone else to help you with your job. 



----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > 
To: "North American Network Operators Group" < [email protected] > 
Cc: "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2025 3:25:22 PM 
Subject: Re: Genius or Ridiculous? 


Find a friend with the service instead of subscribing. 


On Sat, Aug 30, 2025, 4:21 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


My current project is a voice-related project, but how ridiculous would it be 
to get a line of service from my competitors at my main office for me to do 
diagnostics from? Internet from Comcast, Frontier, etc. Voice from Frontier, 
Comcast, AT&T wireless, VZW, and T-Mobile? 

I'm currently in a situation where I have to engage customers (or the family of 
employees) to place test calls for me to collect data on because I can't do it 
any other way. 



----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 



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