Am 02.11.2025 um 09:36:04 Uhr schrieb Saku Ytti via NANOG: > I would have no reason to assume there is anything designed or planned > here. It's just people don't use IPv6, and IPv6 things can be broken > and nothing happens.
That's just plain BS. There are various networks with IPv6 nowadays (have a look a the Google and apnic statistic pages) and various IPv6-only nets already exist. If it breaks, people will notice it. > I blame myself, and the community. We were here when IPv6 happened, > and we cocked it up. This pretend dual-stack environment, where IPv6 > actually isn't business critical, wasn't supposed to happen. Time gap > between IPv4 RFC and IPv6 RFC is smaller than the time gap between > IPv6 RFC and today, we've had longer tenure of migration to IPv6 than > we have IPv4 only. Because the amount of networks and machines massively increased during that time. > There is no other way to frame this than as an abject failure. And > trying to paint this in some other light, just removes any traction > to actually solve this. Is there any good alternative - or even a concept? I've never seen that and every time people come up with that, they suggest "IPv4 with a larger address space", but don't understand that such a thing cannot be implemented alongside with current IPv4, so no migration plan at all. > Actual solution will need some kind of voluntary or involuntary action > by oligarchic big tech companies, so that they'd have a future date > upon which they stop serving IPv4, which will create motivation for > downstreams to adopt IPv6. Some small sites already did that: https://konecipv4.cz/en/ > Maybe someone could convince the FTC, FCC or DOJ that IPv4 is an > antitrust issue they need to regulate. Which it absolutely is, it is > an additional barrier of entry for many types of businesses favoring > established large players over new entrants. IIRC I've read that certain US government contracts require IPv6 compatibility. Device which don't support it cannot be used. -- Gruß Marco Send unsolicited bulk mail to [email protected]
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