No, it didnt as well. But I guess I live in the past with
my attitude for this things... The battle is over because
quantity wins over quality, no pride in engineering. Its all about
money and paychecks... not about good usefull product/service.

Im too old for that I guess..


---------- Original message ----------

From: Tom Beecher <[email protected]>
To: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 14:25:25 -0500

Doesn't have anything to do with big/small org size.

Two+ decades of "why run this myself, I'll just use theirs" , combined with
people assuming that the big dogs 'never go down' has gotten us here. Maybe
this CF outage didn't touch anything you care about, but I bet the more
recent AWS one did.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 11:56˙˙AM borg--- via NANOG <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Indeed, spoken like a true bigboy... Small orgs should keep quiet..
> I didnt noticed any problems w/ supplies here..
> Anyway.. Keep centralizing boys... It will be good..
> For your landlords..
>
> EOF from my side..
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
>
> From: J. Hellenthal <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 08:50:27 -0600
>
> Sadly your view of the "internet" is as small as a pea. IRC doesn't get
> people paid and things like salesforce being down produce logistical
> problems causing trucks not to move, delivering your goods to stores
> leaving you sitting there on IRC spreading peanut butter on whatever bread
> you have left with a plastic knife until it all clears up.
>
> --
>  J. Hellenthal
>
> The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says
> a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
>
> > On Nov 23, 2025, at 06:53, borg--- via NANOG <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > ˙˙Well, dont get me wrong, but this article is a bit wrong.
> > Internet != CDNs. While this is true that CDNs host a lot
> > of content these days and outage bring down a lot of sites down,
> > this doesnt mean the whole Internet is like that.
> >
> > I, for example didnt notice a thing when CloudFlare went down.
> > If not sitting on some IRC channels where I heard moaning about it
> > I would NOT know a thing that there is outage in progress ;)
> > My stuff was working, stuff I cared was working..
> >
> > Regards,
> > Borg
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> >
> > From: Hank Nussbacher via NANOG <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: Hank Nussbacher <[email protected]>
> > Subject: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience
> > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 10:28:35 +0200
> >
> >
> https://pulse.internetsociety.org/blog/how-consolidation-is-eroding-internet-resilience
> >
> > Some may find this of interest.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hank
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