Matt

Some open software would really keep a lot of this stuff out of the
trash. I have Cyclades and Lantronix stuff on a shelf that works. I
got tired of maintaining a box-in-the-middle to deal with ssh ciphers.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 7:43 AM Matt Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Up until recently I was using the Raritan Dominion SX II models. Dual PSU, 
> dual NIC, and configurations ranging from 4 to 48 ports.  However, Raritan 
> has just discontinued that as of June. It is unclear how long they will 
> continue to provide security patches.
>
> They are recommending customers switch to the ZPE Systems Nodegrid Serial 
> Consoles. It looks to be much the same, but I haven't had a chance to test 
> one yet. The only difference I've noticed is the ZPE device seems to have an 
> embedded 5G cellular module.
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 at 09:34, Andrew Latham via NANOG <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> I have stacks and stacks of serial console servers. Today I mostly use
>> an https://www.coolgear.com/product/32-port-rs-232-usb-to-serial-adapter
>> with some pictures of the guts at
>> https://lathama.net/Tech/Hardware/USB-32COM-RM if interested. It is my
>> solution to a quick build of an https://freetserv.github.io/
>>
>> (I have seen some things)
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 5:51 PM Dan Mahoney via NANOG
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey there folks.
>> >
>> > Dayjob has historically used USB TTY pods attached to real BSD machines to 
>> > talk to our cisco consoles, with the amazing benefit that with a program 
>> > like Vixie's rtty (or conserver) you can also capture the output of those 
>> > consoles in real-time, and perhaps use that data to identify a connected 
>> > device.
>> >
>> > As a bonus, because the rackmount devices have real DE-9's on them, it 
>> > means they work with any kind of cable you get (not just your standard 
>> > rj45 cisco rollover like you might get with a Cyclades thing -- and you 
>> > don't have to come up with the weird-ass mappings for rj45-serial like you 
>> > might need like our ME4012 NAS (the serial cable is a stereo plug), our 
>> > smart power strips (it's either a stereo plug, or an rj12), or something 
>> > like an older brocade switch (it's a DE9, but it's friggin ODD, and I 
>> > think it may also be the wrong gender).
>> >
>> > It also means, since you're running a real OS, you have patches as long as 
>> > the OS is supported (so you're not stuck with "gee it only speaks 
>> > rsa1024"), versus some EOL appliance.  But it's also 2u, and since we're 
>> > recently buying a lot of Dell hardware, that's Super Overkill for a dell, 
>> > so I'm evaluating maybe just going "Appliance".
>> >
>> > If we stick with an existing unix box for this, I'd want something with 
>> > proper IPMI/OOB (so Rpi is out) but maybe the dumbest, shallowest-depth 
>> > atom64 supermicro you can find, in the event you need to do a reinstall or 
>> > catch a hung system.
>> >
>> > Are there things that other folks are using that are "easy" to work with 
>> > that you've found to have Long firmware lives, decent warranties and low 
>> > hassle?  Does anything these days actually have DE9s on it?
>> >
>> > -Dan
>> >
>> > (You may have also seen my note earlier about the Cisco ASR920, which has 
>> > RS232 pins in a USB-A header.  No, not via a PL2032 chip inside the host 
>> > that provides a virtual serial...direct txd/rxd/gnd/cts etc, on the USB 
>> > pins.  I've seen things you people would't believe)
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