We don't need the adminstrative headache of ICANN/ARIN/RIRs on this. Someone could 
just do it with a private ASN and advertise the route with an arbitrarily null routed 
next-hop.

That doesn't solve the problem of bad filters on firewalls.

The problem is lots of books/webpages/templates/etc. say filter bogons. People not 
smart enough to understand the responsibilities of doing so implement it and forget 
it. Instead of trying to beat up on the large numbers of people who lack sufficient 
clue, why isn't the pressure turned to the authors that are irresponsibly and blindly 
recommending the wide spread use of these filters? I would think we would have more 
success targeting the people authoring this stuff. There are at most hundreds of 
authors. There is at least thousands of twits...

Funny the media gets all excited about BGP security and dDos attacks against a root 
nameserver yet no one ever seems to mention the real scalability issues like that we 
can't allocate large parts of the net because many network operators aren't bright 
enough to update filters.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 69/8...this sucks



OK... I'm late to this discussion (been mostly ignoring it due to volume in
other places), but, Sean's 911->855 mail makes me wonder...

It seems to me that it would be relatively simple to solve this problem by
doing the following:

1.      ICANN (or an ICANN designee, such as ARIN) shall issue an ASN range
        of 20 ASNs to be used as BOGON-ORIGINATE.

2.      Each RIR should operate one or more routers with an open peering
        policy which will perform the following functions:

        A.      Advertise all unissued space allocated to the RIR as
                originating from an ASN allocated to <RIR>-BOGON.

        B.      Peer with the corresponding routers at each of the other
                RIRs and accept and readvertise their BOGON list through
                BGP.

        C.      Provide a full BOGON feed to any router that chooses to
                peer, but not accept any routes or non-BGP traffic from
                those routers.


3.      Any provider which wishes to filter BOGONs could peer with the
        closest one or two of these and set up route maps that modify
        the next-hop for all BOGONs to be an address which is statically
        routed to NULL0 on each of their routers.

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but, it seems to me that this
is the easiest way to make the data readily available to the community
directly from the maintainers of the databases in a fashion which is
automatically up to date.

Owen

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