In Canada  they are sometimes referred to as c-loops.  You could try that...
But, they are hard to get.. And impossible to get repaired :).

Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: Temkin, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: August 29, 2003 12:29 PM
To: 'Austad, Jay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: dry pair



Order it as an "alarm circuit"... At least that's how VZ recognizes it in
NY.

-Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dry pair



Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through a dry
pair between two buildings connected to the same CO?

When I called to order one, no one knew what I was talking about.

-jay

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