RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest

[Owen DeLong]

Please tell me what phone companies you've been working with.  As a rule,
the ones I've experienced build whatever is the path of least resistance
and often do stupid telco tricks like folded rings and single entries into
buildings unless you stand over them with a bull-whip and insist that
they do better.

I'd love to know of a telco that does this right without having to stand
over them.

Owen


--On Monday, November 3, 2003 8:15 AM -0500 "Douglas S. Peeples" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What you describe is a folded ring and is indicative of either a temporary
solution or bad network design. As a rule, phone companies and capacity
suppliers build very robust systems.

Douglas S. Peeples
Technology Assurance Labs

-----Original Message-----
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Brian Bruns
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:39 AM
To: Henry Linneweh; Vincent J. Bono; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest

----- Original Message -----
From: Henry Linneweh
To: Vincent J. Bono ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Sean Donelan
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest

Not having seen the entire cut, I would have to imagine the entire bundle

was

cut and the poor splicers had their hands full.

From experience, I can say that its quite easy to sabatoge a fiber run.

The
perfect example - a few years ago when I was a network admin, the whole
NOC where the bulk of our T1s were went out suddenly one morning.  We
discovered that less then a block away a fiber seeking backhoe dug right
through the fibers - both the primary *and* secondary fibers - because
Verizon burried them both in the same trench rather then run them
separate routes.  So, the supposed redundancy went right out the window.

The phone companies really aren't helping the situation one bit by doing
stuff like this.
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