On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:50:51AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
> 
> >> is the following a general problem, or just one i am seeing?
> > 
> > Verizon does SMTP callbacks, connecting back to the MX of the envelope 
> > sender and trying to verify that the user exists
> > 
> >> 
> >> 2003-12-01 10:09:05 1APbBa-000Ork-DY == [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >> R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (0): SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL 
> >> FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=5365: host relay.verizon.net [206.46.170.12]: 450 
> >> Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc004pub.verizon.net
> >> 
> > 
> > So this would connect to the MX of gerbangmail.com and try to verify 
> > that [EMAIL PROTECTED] exists.
> > 
> > gerbangmail.com.        5h55m6s IN MX   0 sitemail.everyone.net.
> > 
> > If the MX (sitemail.everyone.net) doesn't respond fast enough for 
> > verizon, their tester times out, and the message gets 4xx'd.
> 
> interesting but utterly irrelevant.  the question was not how
> verison decided it was spam.  the point was that their server
> returned a 450 as opposed to a 5xx (550 looks good), and this
> causes net damage.

        I think he's saying that they were unable to perform
the validation hence the 450.  If the validation was successful,
they'd return a 200 series code, if it was unsuccessful, they
would return a 500 series code.

        - jared

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