--On Wednesday, December 3, 2003 10:53 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:57:37 PST, Owen DeLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

around.  (In fact, I'm hard pressed to imagine how a Frag needed packet
for an invalid session could do much of anything).

You can use a forged 'frag needed' to stomp an existing connection of the victim's down to 64 byte MTU or similar silliness, but other than sheer "it's a packet" DDoS effects, I can't think of a malicious use for one for an invalid session either....

Agreed. However, the former pretty much requires knowledge, a lot of packets,
or a really lucky set of guesses.

Owen


-- If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.

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