If you think a little - having hundreds of web services, it is reasonable _do not renumber_. Of course, it will require extra efforts when getting IP block(s) or require do not change main provider(s).
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A Steenbergen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Patrick W Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:12 PM Subject: Re: ARIN Comment > > On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 04:29:08PM -0400, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: > > > > On Jul 1, 2004, at 4:15 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote: > > > > >I was also concerned, until I read the actual pleadings. > > > > > >Although nobody's ever allowed us (AS19933) more than 1 month to > > >renumber, and we've always had to pay both providers during the time, > > >so we've always kept it as short as possible anyway.... > > > > But now you can get PI space and take well over a year to renumber into > > it without fear of ARIN asking for it back. > > I think it is important to note that different applications have different > time requirements for renumbering. Cable modem customers on DHCP could > renumbered as quickly as your lease time. Routers can be renumbered with a > couple of conf t statements. Hosting you directly control can be > renumbered with sed and/or some quick perl scripts. > > But have you ever tried renumbering thousands of web hosting IPs used by > hundreds of clueless wannabe point and click sysadmins using cpanel? Just > remmeber that almost every one of those hoster customers probably has > customers of their own, with hundreds of domains and DNS managed by god > only knows what interface, not to mention poorly written embedded perl and > php scripts, and oh did I mention cpanel? > > It is a really poor assumption to think that just because it takes someone > like this a year to renumber space, that they must be lazy or stupid or > doing something horribly wrong themselves. I can't tell you for sure that > it isn't that case here, but I CAN tell you for sure that I have seen > similar lead times to renumber blocks from otherwise very hard working and > intelligent folks in this business. We all complain when some piece of > ARIN policy which doesn't fit our business model affects us negatively, I > don't see why web hosting folks deserve any less consideration. > > -- > Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras > GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
