Philip Lavine wrote:
> I just don't understand how if there is 1 segment that gets lost how this 
> could translate to such a catastrophic long period of slow-start. How can I 
> minimize the impact of  the inevitable segment loss/out of order over a WAN. 
> Is QoS the only option?

Different tcp congestion control algorithm... Instead of tcp reno use
vegas or westwood?

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stephen Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Philip Lavine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: nanog <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:09:24 PM
> Subject: Re: TCP congestion
> 
> Well, if its out of order its the same as if its lost or delayed, it needs to 
> see that missing segment before the window is full
> 
> As mentioned you need to get dumps from both ends, you will almost definitely 
> find that you have packet loss which tripped tcp's slow start mechanism.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:02:49PM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
>> Even if the segment was received out of order what would cause congestion 
>> avoidance to starve the connection of legitimate traffic for 15 to 20 
>> seconds? That is the core of the problem.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Fred Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Brian Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: Philip Lavine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:56:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: TCP congestion
>>
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Brian Knoll ((TTNET)) wrote:
>>
>>> If the receiver is sending a DUP ACK, then the sender either never
>>> received the first ACK or it didn't receive it within the timeframe it
>>> expected.
>> or received it out of order.
>>
>> Yes, a tcpdump trace is the first step.
>>
>>
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