On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 01:25:51PM -0400, John Curran wrote: > At 2:01 PM +0100 7/26/07, Stephen Wilcox wrote: > >well, the empirical data which is confirmed here is saying that those 10% > >are burning most of the v4 addresses and we are not seeing them rollout v6 > >whether they 'need to' or not > > Wow... you mean that they're not announcing general IPv6 > availability two years before they have to? I'm so surprised. ;-)
they need to be announcing availability well in advance of a forced need to transition and based on the projected timescales 2 yrs in advance has already passed them by > >so you sound right in theory, but in practice your data doesnt show that is > >occuring and it also suggests those 10% are actively supporting 'the wall' > >approach. > > The number of major backbone operators looking into IPv6 is already > quite high, and will likely approach 100%. The alternative is carriers > having to explain to the analyst community that they lack a business > plan for new data customer growth once large IPv4 blocks are no longer > generally available. ah yes of course.. looking into, producing reports. but where are they at really? : - how many of those have obtained address space sufficient to cover their customer base already? - how many of those networks have made the trivial step of announcing their v6 blocks in BGP? - how many of them have already got native v6 running in their backbones and on their services (mail, dns etc).. fundemental advance prerequisites to any complicated end user deployment i think the number with one of the above is a reasonable percentage, with two of the above is small and three of the above.. are there any? Steve
