It is not obvious to me that there is a Pacific cable capacity glut. For 
example, I sold a DS3 from LA to Hong Kong for $6K MRC whereas the last time a 
wholesale TransAtlantic DS3 rivaled that figure was 2001.

Now you could argue that one needs to look at pricing on a mileage-adjusted 
basis since the typical TransPacific cable spans a much greater distance than 
its TransAtlantic counterpart. 

But operating costs are not proportional to mileage - the bulk of your 
operating expense is what you pay the undersea maintenance companies such as 
Global Marine and Tyco Submarine and Alcatel. And their annual charges are not 
very sensitive to distance. 

What is peculiar about the Pacific is the lack of new products. For example, 
it's extremely difficult to get any Ethernet transport on many routes such as 
LA/Sydney or into India. 

Yes, there is some Ethernet/IP junk, but that doesn't meet most of my clients' 
performance standards. It is IP masquerading as Ethernet. 

In fact, it is very difficult to find Packet-over-SDH Ethernet even on the 
all-important LA/HK route. 

To sum up, I do believe the median Pacific cable enjoys a substantial margin 
advantage over the median Atlantic 

There is only TransAtlantic cable that is particularly well right now, largely 
due to its unique physical diversity and footprint.  

Roderick S. Beck
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Deepak Jain
Sent: Sat 9/22/2007 12:44 AM
To: nanog list
Subject: New TransPacific Cable Projects:
 


This is what happens when I stay late at the office on a Friday.

http://www.commsday.com/node/186 - Google participating in a new 
Transpacific Cable Project

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/121806-verizon-business.html - 
Verizon on a different transpacific project


And all the same articles say there is already an overpriced glut of 
capacity along these routes and a glut of fiber laying ocean vessels.

Good times. Rather than having competition, everyone is just building 
their own routes that they won't share at wholesale prices to folks in 
the wholesale buying business. :)

Ahh... reminds me of the late 90s when everyone was building dark fiber 
networks for the surge of demand that was coming. Now, the remaining 
folks are buying up all the unused bits to constrain capacity.

If I were a stakeholder in transpacific cables, I'd be leasing up the 
next 3-6 years of the entire global cable laying fleet. :)

Deepak Jain
AiNET






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