On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 11:41, Joe Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
[…] I suspect that by changing your 5321.MailFrom, you changed the signal > calculus, for now. I bet in a bit, provided that you don’t change any other > behaviors, that these emails will eventually be rejected too. > Of course. This is just a tell-tale about sending yourself the output of crontab runs towards Gmail — apparently, it may result in the whole domain becoming blacklisted. […] > This is done by all the big players, but Microsoft is the most aggressive. > Microsoft and Outlook are kind of irrelevant nowadays. Even the big enterprise companies are often on G Suite nowadays. […] > Also, free is free. If you pay for G-Suite, then the admin gets a LOT of > extra bonuses that anyone would expect out of a paid mailbox. I don’t know > about G-Suites (wouldn’t touch the stuff personally), but you can get a > O365-hosted exchange mailbox for like $5/month these days with all the > aliases you need and all the post-processing transport rules you want. In > line with the paid Microsoft mailbox – an email does not get delivered for > no reason except in the rarest of cases. The same is not true with the free > mailboxes hosted by Microsoft or Google. > You're ignoring several issues here: * First of all, it doesn't seem like acceptance rules are different between Gmail and G Suite. TBH, I think that's actually a good thing, because it means that there's potentially a higher likelihood that if you can see the message in your own Gmail, then so could your business partners in their G Suite. * I am actually not just a free used of Gmail, but a paying customer. They've tricked me into believing that I'll have unlimited storage space; yet then the quota stopped growing at 15GB, but my mailing list archives did not, so, now I'm forced to pay 1,99 USD/mo for continued ability to receive the mail. * You're assuming that all those controls within G Suite actually work. It's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread that they don't actually seem to work, after all. See https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-October/103842.html. Not to mention that the bigger issue is that G Suite has a pretty good monopoly on corporate mail nowadays, so, even though I could rather easily abandon my own Gmail account, I cannot quite stop dealing with other people's G Suite accounts any time soon. C.
