Le 17/03/2020 à 19:26, Owen DeLong a écrit :
On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:41 , Alexandre Petrescu
<alexandre.petre...@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petre...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote:
This simply isn’t true…
Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who
specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology.
YEs listen to them.
This morning they say: everyone can get it, there is no age or
pre-conditio.
They’ve always said “everyone can get it, there’s no age or
pre-condition”.
The age and pre-existing condition thing comes into play in defining
the probability that you will get a severe case of it. That advice
hasn’t changed.
Owen, we differ.
That advice changed.
I am not an immunologist, not a doctor of medicine, not medical.
I am not an official channel of information.
But that advice changed here: anyone can get it, anyone can get under
respiratory device because of it.
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Also,
The good thing I heard today is China agency of press, saying they might
have treatment, some positive sign, not fully positive, just some positive.
Alex
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html
If You Are at Higher Risk
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Who is at higher risk?
Early information out of China, where COVID-19 first started, shows
that some people are at higher risk of getting very sick from this
illness. This includes:
* Older adults
* People who have serious chronic medical conditions like:
o Heart disease
o Diabetes
*
o Lung disease
Alex
That''s it. They dont know, and worse they dont say they dont know.
Actually, they do say they don’t know (about the things they don’t
know). For example:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Ftransmission.html
COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning how it spreads,
the severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may spread in
the United States.
I am an engineer, I am not medical professional, my question is: is
there a device to detect the virus with the crown in the air and
light up a led?
No… No such device exists for Corona Virus at this time. Such a device
is not easily developed.
(we do have such devices for VOC, for CO2, PM2, PM10 pollution, and
many other things in the air; but about virus with a rcown?)
Detecting a virus in the air is much more complicated than detecting
VOC, CO2, PM2.5 (presumably what you meant by PM2), or PM10.
PM2.5 and PM10 are a simple size test. CO2 is a molecule that is easy
to detect through a simple electrochemical process. VOC are
a class of hydrocarbons that all share certain chemical properties
which are easily detected through a simple electrochemical process.
It should also be noted that such devices even for the chemicals they
can detect require a certain concentration of that chemical.
On the other hand, a single airborne virion can be enough to cause a
widespread epidemic. If that single virion is “lucky” enough to find
a compatible host cell and get the cell to start replicating it, then
you can quickly get lots more copies of that virion which then seek out
additional host cells and additional hosts to make even more, and so on.
Viruses are not. Viruses are very tiny intracellular parasites where
very subtle chemical differences cause massively different effects on
humans.
They consist of an RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective
virus-coded protein coat. More information here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8174/
Currently, the best we can do is a test to detect coronavirus
infection in a person after they are infected and symptomatic.
So for now, stay indoors with your family and if you’ve got a sick
sense of humor like I do, play one or more of the Pandemic board games
(if you happen to own them).
Owen
Alex
The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains the primary source
of trustworthy information. It may be
incomplete, but if someone is contradicting something there, they’re
very likely to be wrong.
OTOH, anyone selling “survive COVID” or “cure COVID” etc. is
completely untrustworthy and guaranteed to be lying to
you in order to sell a product. Despicable, but common place.
There’s no authoritative way to get false information off the
internet, so we have to combat it as best we can with good
information and education. Even in my own household, this is a
constant battle as my GF continues to bring home
odd superstitious rumors and embellishments from a variety of
inaccurate sources and I constantly have to correct her
perspective.
For up to date local information, check with the local public health
authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will usually
be your county public health agency. In some cases, individual
municipalities also have public health departments.
It's the price we pay for hyper-connectedness (not trying to coin a
phrase, hehe).
Everybody (especially the kids) lives on their device 99% of the time.
If you're not on their device, you are not relevant to them.
When was the last time you bought a newspaper? How many times do your
kids watch the news, either on TV or their device? But they are all over
WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, SnapChat, WeChat, et al. And even if they
have the "News" app on their phone, they probably have never opened it.
If they opened it, they didn't find value in it.
On average, the we (and the kids) will give your app two tries; if we
don't like it, you're out - which explains why we all have 3,000 apps on
our phones, but only use 2 or 3 of them most consistently.
Whoever wants to get professional and verified information out (to the
kids who live on their devices) needs to find a way to do so in a manner
we find relevant, otherwise we'll simply keep trading mis-information
for whatever reason we feel gives us value.
Mark.
