If you have to have connectivity to them, you could always just instruct them 
not to announce your routes beyond their AS; paid peering, and announce through 
more reliable ASs such as 2914 and 1299. Many people do this. Otherwise, cut 
ties with them and save yourself the headaches. 


> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:09, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> An outage is what it is. I am not worried about outages. We have multiple 
> transits to deal with that.
> 
> It is the keep announcing prefixes after withdrawal from peers and customers 
> that is the huge problem here. That is killing all the effort and money I put 
> into having redundancy. It is sabotage of my network after I cut the ties. I 
> do not want to be a customer at an outlet who has a system that will do that. 
> Luckily we do not currently have a contract and now they will have to 
> convince me it is safe for me to make a contract with them. If that is 
> impossible I guess I won't be getting a contract with them.
> 
> But I disagree in that it would be impossible. They need to make a good 
> report telling exactly what went wrong and how they changed the design, so 
> something like this can not happen again. The basic design of BGP is such 
> that this should not happen easily if at all. They did something unwise. Did 
> they make a route reflector based on a database or something?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Baldur
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:13 PM Mike Bolitho <mikeboli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Exactly. And asking that they somehow prove this won't happen again is 
>> impossible.
>> 
>> - Mike Bolitho
>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 8:10 AM Drew Weaver <drew.wea...@thenap.com> wrote:
>>> I’m not defending them but I am sure it isn’t intentional.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+drew.weaver=thenap....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Baldur Norddahl
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:28 AM
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Subject: Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> How is that acceptable behaviour? I shall remember never to make a contract 
>>> with these guys until they can prove that they won't advertise my prefixes 
>>> after I pull them. Under any circumstances. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> søn. 30. aug. 2020 15.14 skrev Joseph Jenkins <j...@breathe-underwater.com>:
>>> 
>>> Finally got through on their support line and spoke to level1. The only 
>>> thing the tech could say was it was an issue with BGP route reflectors and 
>>> it started about 3am(pacific). They were still trying to isolate the issue. 
>>> I've tried failing over my circuits and no go, the traffic just dies as L3 
>>> won't stop advertising my routes.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:21 AM Drew Weaver via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Woke up this morning to a bunch of reports of issues with connectivity had 
>>> to shut down some Level3/CTL connections to get it to return to normal.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> As of right now their support portal won’t load: 
>>> https://www.centurylink.com/business/login/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just wondering what others are seeing.
>>> 
>>>  

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