Disney should hire some proper developers and QA team.

RFC 1123 instructed developers to make sure your products handled multi-homed 
servers properly and dealing with one of the addresses being unreachable is 
part of that.  It’s not like the app can’t attempt to a stream from the IPv6 
address and if there is no response in 200ms start a parallel attempt from the 
IPv4 address.  If the IPv6 stream succeeds drop the IPv4 stream  Happy Eyeballs 
is just a specific case of multi-homed servers. 

QA should have test scenarios where the app has a dual stack network and the 
servers are silently untraceable over one then the other transport.  It isn’t 
hard to do.  Dealing with broken networks is something every application should 
do.
-- 
Mark Andrews

> On 23 Jan 2021, at 01:28, Travis Garrison <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What's all your opinion when company's such as Disney actively recommend 
> disabling IPv6? They are presenting it as IPv6 is blocking their app. We all 
> know that isn’t possible. Several people have issues with their app and 
> Amazon firesticks. I use my phone and a chromecast and I see the issues when 
> IPv6 is enabled. We are in the testing phase on rolling out IPv6 on our 
> network. All the scripts are ready, just trying to work through the few 
> issues like this one.
> 
> https://help.disneyplus.com/csp?id=csp_article_content&sys_kb_id=c91af021dbe46850b03cc58a139619ed
> 
> Thank you
> Travis 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Mark Andrews
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:45 PM
> To: Sabri Berisha <[email protected]>
> Cc: nanog <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: DoD IP Space
> 
> IPv6 doesn’t need a hard date.  It is coming, slowly, but it is coming.
> Every data set says the same thing.  It may not be coming as fast as a lot of 
> us would want or actually think is reasonable as ISP’s are currently being 
> forced to deploy CGNs (NAT44 and NAT64) because there are laggards that are 
> not doing their part.
> 
> If you offer a service over the Internet then it should be available over
> IPv6 otherwise you are costing your customers more to reach you.  CGNs are 
> not free.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2021, at 06:07, Sabri Berisha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> ----- On Jan 21, 2021, at 6:40 AM, Andy Ringsmuth [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> I’m sure we all remember Y2k
>> 
>> Ah, yes. As a young IT consultant wearing a suit and tie (rofl), I 
>> upgraded many bioses in many office buildings in the months leading up to 
>> it...
>> 
>>> I’d love to see a line in the concrete of, say, January 1, 2025, 
>>> whereby IPv6 will be the default.
>> 
>> The challenge with that is the market. Y2K was a problem that was 
>> existed. It was a brick wall that we would hit no matter what. The 
>> faulty code was released years before the date.
>> 
>> We, IETF, or even the UN could come up with 1/1/25 as the date where 
>> we switch off IPv4, and you will still find networks that run IPv4 for 
>> the simple reason that the people who own those networks have a choice. With 
>> Y2K there was no choice.
>> 
>> The best way to have IPv6 implemented worldwide is by having an 
>> incentive for the executives that make the decisions. From experience, 
>> as I've said on this list a few times before, I can tell you that 
>> decision makers with a limited budget that have to choose between a 
>> new revenue generating feature, or a company-wide implementation of 
>> IPv6, will choose the one that's best for their own short-term interests.
>> 
>> On that note, I did have a perhaps silly idea: One way to create the 
>> demand could be to have browser makers add a warning to the URL bar, 
>> similar to the HTTPS warnings we see today. If a site is IPv4 only, 
>> warn that the site is using deprecated technology.
>> 
>> Financial incentives also work. Perhaps we can convince Mr. Biden to 
>> give a .5% tax cut to corporations that fully implement v6. That will 
>> create some bonus targets.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sabri
> 
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
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> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: [email protected]
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