I’m right there with you. I can download an entire Mac OS update in 6 minutes. It’s astonishing. I’d pay a grand a month for this. I’d pay five.
-LB Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO [email protected] "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.” ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME <https://alexmhoulton.wixsite.com/6x7networks> FCC License KJ6FJJ > On May 29, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Dan. > > In Switzerland you can get 10Gb symmetric to the home for 49.95 per month (or > 39.95 if you have a mobile with the same ISP) . > > As with Dan, average utilisation is measured in Mb. > > But then the ability to go from that to download 10GB of the latest patches > from Microsoft or Apple, or the ability to upload large files for off-site > backups or for friends/customers .... I don't know what I'd do without it ! > > And of course, the days of the buffering wheel of death when streaming 4K TV > is long gone ... I can have multiple people in multiple rooms in my house > streaming 4K and nobody notices. > > I would never, ever, go back to DSL. Even if they hiked the price 5x, I'd > still pay it. > > Coming back to the original question on this thread, my answer would be the > minimum for 2021 should be 1/1. Anything less than that is a bit silly and > will soon be obsolete. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Saturday, 29 May 2021 04:50, Dan Stralka <[email protected]> wrote: > >> But it is reality, it's just not your reality, Mike. Brandon's ISP can >> provide that service. >> >> So should there be a more granular definition of speeds mandated based on >> population density, last mile tech, etc? >> >> I was in the camp that you didn't need higher bandwidth than you'd normally >> find - I was happy on my 50/10 plan. Then my ISP upgraded me to a 300/50 or >> thereabouts and it was a night and day difference in getting things done. >> >> Just like your example of average utilization being in the single megabits >> per second, my average utilization is near zero. But when I need to move >> files I can burst to speeds that aren't embarrassing in 2021. >> >> Higher bandwidth is both welcome and necessary. It doesn't have to be >> sustained throughout the contract to be required. The only question is how >> feasible it is, and I suspect it's quite feasible for larger players. >> >> Dan >> >> (end) >> >> On Fri, May 28, 2021, 22:33 Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That's not based in any kind of reality. >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> Midwest-IX >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> From: "Brandon Price" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Sean Donelan" <[email protected]>, "NANOG Operators' Group" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:21:53 PM >>> Subject: RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections >>> >>> 100/100 minimum for sure. >>> >>> In our small neck of the woods, we are currently doing 250/250 for $45 and >>> 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps. >>> >>> We have lost some grants on rural builds because "someone" in the census >>> block claims they provide broadband.. Not hard to put an AP up on a tower >>> and hit the current definition's upload speed. >>> >>> I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer what they "need"... >>> >>> Brandon Price >>> Senior Network Engineer >>> City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Sean Donelan >>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:33 PM >>> To: NANOG Operators' Group <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections >>> >>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not >>> click links or open attachments unless you are expecting this email and/or >>> know the content is safe. >>> >>> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote: >>>> At least 100/100. >>>> >>>> We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore, that’s what I’d start >>>> everyone at if I could. >>> >>> At $50/month or less? >>> >>> Maximize number of households of all demographic groups.

