On 7/1/21 1:05 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:


On 7/1/21 3:53 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
And this is why this problem will not be solved.  The "open relay" is making money from processing 
the calls, and the end carrier is making money for terminating them.  Until fine(s) -- hopefully millions of 
them, one for each improperly terminated call, together with jail time for the CEO of the company for 
"conspiracy to commit fraud" --  and EACH of the fines is EQUAL OR GREATER than the total yearly 
worldwide REVENUE of that end carrier, they will not have any impetus to "fix" the problem.

How about 47 CFR 64.1200(k)(4)?

(4) A provider may block voice calls or cease to accept traffic from an originating or intermediate provider <https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200> without liability under the Communications Act or the Commission's rules where the originating or intermediate provider <https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200>, when notified by the Commission, fails to effectively mitigate illegal traffic within 48 hours or fails to implement effective measures to prevent new and renewing customers <https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=53789aafb18c69f4ad1df8f063611a51&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200> from using its network to originate illegal calls. Prior to initiating blocking, the provider shall provide the Commission with notice and a brief summary of the basis for its determination that the originating or intermediate provider <https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=643618fc7955a6798d0c07a136e40fef&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:B:Part:64:Subpart:L:64.1200> meets one or more of these two conditions for blocking.

ie: "You're not really a phone company anymore, says the rest of the PSTN"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/64.1200

Those who fail to understand the Usenet Death Penalty are doomed to (not) repeat it.

Mike

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