I'm just kidding. I wasn't on until 1990 when I was teaching IBM 370 assembler
-----Original Message----- From: Mel Beckman <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:12 PM To: Kain, Becki (.) <[email protected]> Cc: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>; [email protected]; nanog <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Network visibility Becki, I was on ARPANET through the USDA in the 1980s. So, not that old :) -mel > On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Kain, Becki (.) <[email protected]> wrote: > > How old are all you people? > > đ > > (JK) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Owen DeLong via NANOG > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Network visibility > > WARNING: This message originated outside of Ford Motor Company. Use caution > when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. > > >> On Oct 20, 2021, at 14:19 , [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> On October 20, 2021 at 16:08 [email protected] (Mel Beckman) wrote: >>> Mark, >>> >>> Before 1983, the ARPANET wasnât an internet, let alone The Internet. >>> Each ARPANET connection required a host-specific interface (the >>> âIMPâ) and simplex Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users' >>> email addresses, and routing had to be specified in advance within each NCP >>> message. > > I think you mean before 1982. > > TCP/IP was deployed starting in 1982. NCP was deprecated (removed from > the > ARPANET) January 1, 1983, but TCP/IP was implemented (and deployed) prior to > that. > >> >> Then again there were IMPs fitted to various systems like TOPS-10, >> ITS, Vax/BSD Unix, IBM370, etc. >> >> So was that really all that different from ethernet vs, oh, wi-fi or >> fiber today, you needed an adapter? > > It really wasnât, but even if you just want to count from TCP/IP forward, > 1983 isnât the correct date. 1983 was when we turned off NCP. It wasnât when > we turned on TCP/IP. The turn on of TCP/IP occurred over several months, so > thereâs no particular date that can be assigned to it. > > Owen > >
