Hi Laura > With the greatest of respect I'm afraid this kind of exemplifies the sort of dream-ware that can only be thought up in the cozy confines of a university campus.
Indeed, that's the origin of many innovations -- and some of them do make it into the real world. > So the chances of something more drastic like your proposal ever seeing the light of day beyond some university labs? We already have a working prototype system. It's quite exciting to see how the existing SCION backbone can be used to provide immediate benefits for traditional IP end hosts. > Sorry to rain on your parade guys! No problem, thank you for your honest feedback! It is very important to gather these opinions / viewpoints. All the best Adrian On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:32 PM Laura Smith via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Friday, January 21st, 2022 at 22:07, Yixin Sun < > yix...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote: > > > Dear Nanog, > > > > We appreciate that your time is very precious, but we wanted to ask you > for your help in answering a brief survey about a new secure routing system > we have developed in a research collaboration between ETH, Princeton > University, and University of Virginia. > > > Prateek, Adrian, and Yixin, > > With the greatest of respect I'm afraid this kind of exemplifies the sort > of dream-ware that can only be thought up in the cozy confines of a > university campus. > > Why do I say this ? > > Because the first thing that I thought of when I read the subject line of > your email and a cursory glance through the body was "Uh huh, I've heard > this sort of thing somewhere before", and that somewhere was .... > > IPv6 was sold as "incrementally deployable", and with IPv6 we're talking > something natively dual-stack operating over the same old "internet". > > And look where we are today ? A decade or so on and the world is still > nowhere near 100% IPv6 coverage, with some major networks still not > anywhere near, and with other major networks only just launching IPv6 (e.g. > the hyperscalers ... or at least some of them). And that's before we start > considering the developing world. > > Or if we put IPv6 to one side. Why do you think BGP is *still* so > stubbornly here ? Because it works (most of the time), everyone knows how > it works, and its been battle tested. > > So the chances of something more drastic like your proposal ever seeing > the light of day beyond some university labs ? > > Sorry to rain on your parade guys ! > > Laura > > >