Or, when someone dies because their cell phone doesn’t work and can’t do a 
simple 911 call anymore when AWS has yet another outage for 2 days.

All those pesky side effects of removing certain functionality that was once 
handled locally…

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
> 
> 
>> For some folk, the risk of money cost outweighs the risk of loss of
>> direct operational control.
> 
> Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when the Magic 
> Cloud provider fails in a way that isn't possible to anticipate because it's 
> all black box. 
> 
> Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great, except when you lose 18 months of 
> opex $ in 2 days completely outside of your ability to control. 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:46 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/26/22 16:41, Randy Bush wrote:
>> 
>> > s/de-risk/re-risk/
>> >
>> > it's just a different risk
>> 
>> I should have finished that sentence with "de-risk their infrastructure 
>> spend", because the actual risk is in having to spend money upfront to 
>> build the network.
>> 
>> For some folk, the risk of money cost outweighs the risk of loss of 
>> direct operational control.
>> 
>> Mark <= who run way from a suggestion to run iBGP route reflectors in 
>> AWS :-).
>> 
>> Mark.

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