I also think the complexities, requirements, tolerances, etc. of an EPC are also being understated in the thread. The difference being is that I am aware (and stated as such) that I'm understating Netflix's usage. The other side doesn't know how particular EPCs can be.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Cc: "Michael Thomas" <[email protected]>, "nanog group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? I think Netflix's usage of AWS is being understated here. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:29 AM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: There's a big difference between a website (admittedly a complex one) and a mobile core. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Michael Thomas" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:54:57 PM Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? On 1/26/22 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 1/26/22 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote: > >> >> Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when >> the Magic Cloud provider fails in a way that isn't possible to >> anticipate because it's all black box. >> >> Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great, except when you lose 18 >> months of opex $ in 2 days completely outside of your ability to >> control. > > I don't disagree. > > What this does, though, is democratize access into the industry. For a > simple business model that is serving a small community with a handful > of eyeballs, not trying to grow forever but put food on the table, > it's somewhere to start. > Didn't Netflix for the longest time run on AWS? I imagine if I were talking to a VC these days and said the first thing I was going to do is rack up a bunch of servers, I'd get laughed at. Cloud makes sense until it doesn't make sense. Just like everything else. Mike

