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ASHandle:       AS394183
OrgID:          ORCL-2
ASName:         OROCKLLC-USA-ASN
ASNumber:       394183
RegDate:        2015-07-01
Updated:        2015-07-01
Source:         ARIN


OrgID:          ORCL-2
OrgName:        Orange Rock Consulting, LLC
CanAllocate:
Street:         300 West Glenoaks Blvd., Suite 106
City:           Glendale
State/Prov:     CA
Country:        US
PostalCode:     91202
RegDate:        2014-11-26
Updated:        2014-11-26
OrgAbuseHandle: LEONJ4-ARIN
OrgAdminHandle: LEONJ4-ARIN
OrgNOCHandle:   LEONJ4-ARIN
OrgTechHandle:  LEONJ4-ARIN
Source:         ARIN


POCHandle:      LEONJ4-ARIN
IsRole:         N
LastName:       Leon
FirstName:      John
Street:         300 West Glenoaks Blvd., Suite 106
City:           Glendale
State/Prov:     CA
Country:        US
PostalCode:     91202
RegDate:        2014-11-24
Updated:        2020-12-01
MobilePhone:    +1-714-782-4326
FaxPhone:       +1-818-484-2010
OfficePhone:    +1-800-253-6121
Mailbox:        j...@orockllc.com
Source:         ARIN


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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail....@nanog.org> on behalf of Phineas 
Walton <p...@phineas.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 4:25:56 AM
To: Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: ASN in use, but no whois data?

The AS customer could've churned from ARIN, freeing the ASN but leaving 
technically valid IRRs in databases such as RADb (which seems to be where they 
originate): https://i.imgur.com/r5xx7Y6.png

..thus allowing them to continue to announce their routes under that ASN as 
usual, even though technically it doesn't exist in the ARIN WHOIS.

Phin

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:47 PM Matt Harris 
<m...@netfire.net<mailto:m...@netfire.net>> wrote:
Hey folks,
I'm looking at an ASN 394183 and I can't find any whois or other contact data. 
I've checked globally and then also ARIN directly and literally nothing as if 
it weren't registered. It's announcing prefixes, at least one of which is IRR 
invalid part of a larger old PSINET block, though, and I'm seeing them in the 
global routing table.

Anyone have any idea how this could happen where an ASN is in use, transiting 
several major providers to the internet, but no whois data as if it didn't 
exist?

Thanks,
Matt

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