So the providers most likely to have the skills and capabilities to automate 
abuse mitigation are the least likely to do anything about it, even when asked? 

</sarcasm> 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "richey goldberg" <[email protected]> 
To: "North American Network Operators Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:16:13 PM 
Subject: Re: Russian aligned ASNs? 



I don’t think that refusing Russian ASNs will do much to stop any kind of 
attacks. They are going to attack from botnets that are global so that’s not 
going to stop them. If anything blocking Russian ASNs will stop the flow of 
information going into Russia. I think we’re better off doing what we can to 
take down any machines that are participating in attacks if they live on 
machines that are downstream from you. One of the biggest issues I face in my 
daily tasks is getting other provers to take down machines. I’m talking to you 
Microsoft, Amazon, Digital Ocean and the likes….. 


-richey 


From: NANOG <[email protected]> on behalf of 
William Allen Simpson <[email protected]> 
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 7:41 PM 
To: North American Network Operators Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Russian aligned ASNs? 

There have been reports of DDoS and new targeted malware attacks. 

There were questions in the media about cutting off the Internet. 

Apparently some Russian government sites have already cut themselves 
off, presumably to avoid counterattacks. 

Would it improve Internet health to refuse Russian ASN announcements? 

What is our community doing to assist Ukraine against these attacks? 

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