View of traffic into the ISP with Netflow/etc is very different than all on my lan traffic.
Tr-069 is bad news. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 15:53 Tom Beecher <[email protected]> wrote: > You don't even have to use their equipment. My provider at home is Charter > / Spectrum. I own my own cable modem / router ,they have no equipment in > my home. Their privacy policy is pretty standard. > > Essentially : > - Anything they can see that I transmit they will collect. > - Anything they can see when I use their apps , even if I'm not on their > network, they will collect. > - They will use that information for their technical and business reasons, > whatever they want. > - I am very limited in what I can request that they don't collect or use. > > None of this is new in the US. I think more people care about this than we > think, but people don't really have an option to vote with their wallets. > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 6:45 AM Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello there, >> >> Several years ago, a friend of mine was working for a large telco and >> his job was to detect which clients had the worst networking experience. >> >> To do that, the telco had this hadoop cluster, where it collected _tons_ >> of data from home users routers, and his job was to use ML to tell the >> signal from the noise. >> >> I remember seeing a sample csv from this data, which contained >> _thousands_ of data fields (features) from each client. >> >> I was _shocked_ by the amount of (meta)data they are able to pull from >> home routers. These even included your wifi network name _and_ password! >> (it's been several years since then). >> >> And home users are _completely_ unaware of this. >> >> So my question to you folks is: >> >> - What's the policy regulations on this? I don't remember the features >> (thousands) but I'm pretty sure you could some profiling with it. >> >> - Is anyone aware of any public discussion on this? I have never seen it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Giovane Moura >> >

