> On Mar 26, 2022, at 17:30 , Masataka Ohta <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> It still looks like NAT to me. > > Almost all the people, perhaps other than you, accept NAT > as is to keep IPv4 Internet or as part of transition > plan from IPv4 to IPv6. > >> NAT is a disgusting hack and destroys the universal peer to peer >> nature of the internet in favor of a consumer/provider model. > > As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving > the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet. Nope… It really isn’t. The problem of audit trail opacity is still a major issue with any form of stateful NAT. Owen
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Joe Maimon
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... John Levine
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Owen DeLong via NANOG
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Masataka Ohta
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Michael Thomas
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... James R Cutler
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still... Abraham Y. Chen
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon
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