> On Mar 30, 2022, at 17:00 , Joe Maimon <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Beecher wrote:
>> 
>>    If the IETF has really been unable to achieve consensus on properly
>>    supporting the currently still dominant internet protocol, that is
>>    seriously problematic and a huge process failure.
>> 
>> 
>> That is not an accurate statement.
>> 
>> The IETF has achieved consensus on this topic. It's explained here by Brian 
>> Carpenter.
>> 
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/int-area/qWaHXBKT8BOx208SbwWILDXyAUA/
> 
> As I have explained with my newly introduced consensus standards, there is no 
> such consensus.
> 
> To reiterate my consensus standards, consensus is only to be considered as 
> amongst stakeholders and IPv6 specific related stakes are not relevant to 
> IPv4. If you consider the reverse to be true as well, I think my version of 
> consensus would achieve a much wider and diverse consensus than the the 
> stated IETF's consensus.
> 
> Once a consensus has been proven invalid its beyond obnoxious to cling to it 
> as though it maintains its own reality field.

Yes, but you don’t have consensus for your new consensus standard, so…

Owen


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