On May 17, 2009, at 4:34 AM, George Imburgia wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

Assuming something like that happened, will a post to NANOG fix it? I don't know. Certainly has a non-zero chance. But trying to get Sprint, or any provider, to change because _you_ think what they are doing is not sane is, well, not sane.

In '02, I had a similar issue with Comcast, when they silently fired up transparent proxy servers. It became apparent when, while working on a remote web server, I was served up cached copies of the pages I was editing.

My approach was two-pronged. First, I bitched loud and long on some security lists about the MITM attack. Not only was it abusive as it was, the potential for further abuse (tracking, ad insertion, theft of sensitive data and intellectual property...) was significant. Eventually, Ted Bridis of Associated Press picked it up and ran a story. The next day, the issue was on the front page of nearly every newspaper in the english speaking world, and then some, as well as network TV news.

Comcast has a large customer base, particularly in the DC area, and a lot of very influential people (like federal judges) were not fond of having their research and recreational web surfing intercepted.

Then they were silly to think turning off the transparent proxies somehow allowed them not to be tracked.

But then, most "influential people" are, at the very least, ignorant of technology.


The proxies went away within a few days, and several jurisdictions passed laws prohibiting this. I'd suspect Sprint is violating some of these laws.

You gave them a business reason (cost more to keep them then turn them off) to change their mind. Good for you. I doubt the same is true for Sprint modulo the laws you mention. And I'm wondering what laws these are, since intercepting port 43 is an extremely common practice.

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TTFN,
patrick


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