*nods* 

We're just a CLEC in Frontier space, so they do the heavy lifting. We just need 
to interface the open-ended 100-pair cables Frontier gives us with our 
Occam\Calix gear. Given the "thoroughness" of the Frontier testing and 
troubleshooting process, we've taken up testing the customer pairs ourselves. 
Distance to fault, what kind of fault, etc. Telling them that info helps 
actually get things fixed more quickly. 


The most we have in any CO is 400 pair. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Dave Phelps" <tippenr...@gmail.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 3:27:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Copper Termination Blocks 



Hi Mike. I used Krone blocks back in the mid 90s. I really liked them. 



I'm afraid now your long-term options now are probably straight old 66 or 110 
blocks. 66 blocks give some added flexibility. 110s are more efficient as far 
as space consumed compared to 66 blocks. Krone and 110s have a very similar 
profile. 



Depending on how much copper you're terminating, you may want to plan the frame 
layout for cross-connect field space before building the frame. You don't want 
to end up with too much cross-connect wire volume in too small an area. That 
can get troublesome. 



Happy to discuss specifics. Just ping me off-list. 



On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 3:13 PM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter that it 
meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people. 

Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't offer much 
in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a 19" or 23" 
rack. 

I was recommended to look at Krone blocks. They look just great. Easy to break 
into for testing with their "look both ways" plug as well as their 
preterminated blocks looked much easier to rack-mount. 

Well, Krone was bought by ADC. ADC was bought by Tyco Electronics. TE was 
bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found interesting with 
no replacements. 


Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not. 

Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts, etc.? 

Any recommendations for alternatives that are easier to source? 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 



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