Sorry about the bad examples, but I remember contacting both about issues with 
SPF multiple times.  They both have seemed have to fixed things at least 
searching my logs for the last week.  Most of my customers have had to 
whitelist them though for past issues. It’s also ezpassnj.com for the NJ 
collection.  Point still stands, assume incompetence over malice.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

> On Aug 23, 2022, at 10:20 PM, Eric Tykwinski <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Not only that, did they even follow their own rules, I’ve been fighting with 
> septa.org <http://septa.org/>, the Pennsylvania train authority, and 
> easypassnj.com <http://easypassnj.com/>, the New Jersey transit toll 
> collectors about invalid SPF records for years, and they literally don’t give 
> a shit.  If they say to put it in spam, well than that is their own fault.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Without saying why the mail was blocked (dumb content filter looking for 
>> porn? a spamhaus listing because the police server was hacked? something 
>> else?) that’s not going to help too much.
>> 
>> I’ve been spam filtering stuff at large providers since the late 90s and it 
>> never gets any easier to block 100% spam or let 100% legit mail through.
>> 
>> —srs
>> 
>> --srs
>> From: NANOG <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of William 
>> Herrin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:03:52 AM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: email spam
>>  
>> Hello,
>> 
>> To folks at places like Google and Godaddy which have gotten, shall we
>> say, overzealous about preventing spam from entering their systems,
>> consider the risk:
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/23/fairfax-county-counselor-solicitation-minor/
>>  
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/23/fairfax-county-counselor-solicitation-minor/>
>> 
>> "Chesterfield County police said emails notifying Fairfax County
>> Public Schools that an employee was arrested and charged with
>> soliciting prostitution from a minor were not delivered to the school
>> system."
>> 
>> Long story short, the pedo kept his school job another year and a half.
>> 
>> There was once a time when both the outbound emails and the bounce
>> messages when they failed... worked. It was a spammy place but the
>> important emails got through.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
> 

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