On 10/7/23 14:32, Willy Manga wrote:

How about we educate each other to not assume you must deaggregate your prefix especially with IPv6?

I see 'some' (it's highly relative) networks on IPv4, they 'believe' they have to advertise every single /24 they have. And when they start with IPv6, they replicate the same mindset with a tons of /48 . You can imagine what will happen of course.

A better alternative IMHO is to take advantage to the large prefix range and advertise a sub-aggregate when necessary. But absolutely not each end-node or customer prefix.

There are a number of operational reasons folk de-aggregate. I do agree that there is some behaviour around de-aggregating by default in IPv4 that transferred to IPv6. But the main issue is that most people only consider the state of their own FIB situation. They hardly consider the FIB state of other network operators around the world.

As an operator, you have to consciously decide that you will not de-aggregate any of your allocations. Of course, there is a cost to that as well, so that cannot be ignored. We, for example, do not de-aggregate any of our allocations (AS37100), but we can afford to do so because we always ensure all peering and transit exit/entry points have the same bandwidth (TE being the main reason networks de-aggregate). Not all shops can afford that.

Network operations workshops abound where we teach about de-aggregation, when it can be necessary, and why it should generally be avoided unless in the most extreme of circumstances. However, in real life, even engineers that have been through the workshop ringer tend to prefer to de-aggregate without caution to the FIB state of other autonomous systems. That said, I do agree that, perhaps, network operations workshops could emphasize the reluctance to unnecessarily de-aggregate in light of the increasing cost of having to maintain FIB's.

Mark.

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