> On 20-Oct-2023, at 00:35, nanog@nanog.org wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:56, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com 
> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:46, Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org 
>>> <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote:
>>>> A question for network operators out there that implement ROV…
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone rejecting RPKI unknown routes at this time?
>>>> 
>>>> I know that it’s popular to reject RPKI invalid (a ROA exists, but doesn’t 
>>>> match the route), but I’m wondering if anyone  is currently or has any 
>>>> plans to start rejecting routes which don’t have a matching ROA at all?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This would be a bad idea and cause needless fragility in the network 
>>> without any upsides.
>> 
>> I’m not intending to advocate it, I’m asking if anyone is currently doing it.
> 
> 
> I’m not aware of anyone doing this, and have not heard operators express 
> interest in doing this (probably because it seems such an unpleasant concept).
> 
> Somewhat related:
> 
> I do know of operators that require a ROA (if it’s non-legacy space) during 
> their customer onboarding process, for example, in BOYIP for DIA cases.

In my region also, ISPs are asking valid ROAs before on-boarding users. 

> 
> But those operators do not expect the ROA to continually exist after the 
> provisioning has been completed successfully. Making the continued 
> availability of a route dependent on the continued validity of a ROA is where 
> friction starts to form.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job

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