It has been a few years, but I recall advertising my routes to the scrubbing 
center via a tunnel and just prepending to my other peers when in mitigation. 
This was pre-RPKI days, but my ASN was still originating the route. So, I would 
assume no change in ROA would be needed in that scenario. Are you allowing them 
to originate your routes or are they just another hop in your as-path?

Tom Krenn
Network Architect
Enterprise Architecture - Information Technology
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 19:58
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Subject: [External] announcing IPs by scrubbing service to help with DDoS 
attacks and ROAs


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Hi, do people use scrubbing services, when under DDoS attack, by having the 
scrubbing service announce the attacked IP prefix(es)?

If so, and you have a ROA for these prefixes, do you authorize the scrubbing AS 
(by issuing ROA or otherwise), and if so, do you do it in advance or only when 
you need the scrubbing service to announce your prefix?

To clarify: we have a possible method to allow such `emergency ROAs' but I'm 
not convinced if we have a solution to a real problem - or if we just found a 
cute crypto solution and will end up writing it for a non-real problem. I 
prefer not to waste our time on presenting cute solutions to non-real problems 
:)

So thanks for your help! Use your judgement if to respond on list or off list.

Many thanks, Amir
--
Amir Herzberg

Comcast professor of Security Innovations, Computer Science and Engineering, 
University of Connecticut
Homepage: https://sites.google.com/site/amirherzberg/home
`Applied Introduction to Cryptography' textbook and 
lectures:https://sites.google.com/site/amirherzberg/cybersecurity




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