Public side of the NAT would need a huge IPv4 Public pool.
Replacing Private pool to something bigger is a very corner case.
Mobile Carriers identify subscribers not by the IP, they could easy tolerate
many overlapping 10/8 even on one Mobile Core.
Huge private pool 240/4 is needed only for Cloud providers that have many
micro-services.
Nothing to dispute here. The people that need it already well aware about it.
Eduard
From: Abraham Y. Chen [mailto:ayc...@avinta.com]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 5:39 AM
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekka...@mektel.ca>; Chen, Abraham Y.
<ayc...@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
Importance: High
Hi, Vasilenko:
1) ... These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not
permit it.":
As classified by Vint Cerf, 240/4 enabled EzIP is an overlay network that
may be deployed stealthily (just like the events reported by the RIPE-LAB). So,
EzIP deployment does not need permission from the IETF.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-11 21:38 EST)
On 2024-01-11 01:17, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it
> without announcement.
This is an assurance that 240/4 would never be permitted for Public Internet.
These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit it.
Ed/
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei....@nanog.org] On
Behalf Of Abraham Y. Chen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:35 PM
To: KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekka...@mektel.ca><mailto:amekka...@mektel.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>; Chen, Abraham Y.
<ayc...@alum.mit.edu><mailto:ayc...@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
Importance: High
Hi, Karim:
1) If you have control of your own equipment (I presume that your business
includes IAP - Internet Access Provider, since you are asking to buy IPv4
blocks.), you can get a large block of reserved IPv4 address for free by
disabling the program codes in your current facility that has been disabling
the use of 240/4 netblock. Please have a look at the below whitepaper. Utilized
according to the outlined disciplines, this is a practically unlimited
resources. It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using
it without announcement. So, you can do so stealthily according to the proposed
mechanism which establishes uniform practices, just as well.
https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf
2) Being an unorthodox solution, if not controversial, please follow up with
me offline. Unless, other NANOGers express their interests.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-10 07:34 EST)
On 2024-01-07 22:46, KARIM MEKKAOUI wrote:
Hi Nanog Community
Any idea please on the best way to buy IPv4 blocs and what is the price?
Thank you
KARIM
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