For gear climate controls and rate of change look at ASHRAE ratings on the 
equipment.  Most vendors publish the rating of equipment on their data sheets 
(sometimes they include the ASHRAE rating), and it gives the required operating 
conditions as well as acceptable rates of change.  Most well run data centres 
follow these recommendations; this “hypothetical” data centre normally does as 
well, but may have missed some maintenance tasks it appears.  I have equipment 
in the same building which hasn’t been effected in another providers suite.



The ASHRAE (American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning 
Engineers) has a committee - ASHRAE Technical Committee 9.9 that covers Mission 
Critical Facilities, Data Centers, Technology Spaces and Electronic Equipment.



2021 Data Center Cooling Resiliency Brief

https://tpc.ashrae.org/Documents?cmtKey=fd4a4ee6-96a3-4f61-8b85-43418dfa988d



2016 ASHRAE Data Center Power Equipment Thermal Guidelines and Best Practices

https://tpc.ashrae.org/Documents?cmtKey=fd4a4ee6-96a3-4f61-8b85-43418dfa988d



2020 Cold Weather Shipping Acclimation and Best Practices (included this one 
because it is fitting this time of year)

https://tpc.ashrae.org/FileDownload?idx=809784d5-911b-4e9a-a2da-ff3ab6ff9eea





BTW; it hit -50°C (-58°F) in Alberta last week and you aren’t hearing about the 
data centres in that province going offline.  The record low for Chicago was 
-27°F set in 1985; this building wasn’t a data centre at that time, and only 
became a data centre in 1999 so they would have known how cold it could get 
there when they did the initial system planning and should have accounted for 
this.





Rob







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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Saku Ytti
Sent: January 16, 2024 2:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: NANOG <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "Hypothetical" Datacenter Overheating



On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 08:51, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:



> A rule of thumb is a few degrees per hour change but YMMV, depends on

> the equipment. Sometimes manufacturer's specs include this.



Is this common sense, or do you have reference to this, like paper showing at 
what temperature change at what rate occurs what damage?



I regularly bring fine electronics, say iPhone, through significant temperature 
gradients, as do most people who have to live in places where inside and 
outside can be wildly different temperatures, with no particular observable 
effect. iPhone does go into 'thermometer' mode, when it overheats though.



Manufacturers, say Juniper and Cisco describe humidity, storage and operating 
temperatures, but do not define temperature change rate.

Does NEBS have an opinion on this, or is this just a common case of yours?



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