Hey Paul,

> Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net
> 
> Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location, ge1-1-1=interface, vl20=vlan etc
> etc....
> 
That's disturbingly similar to ours :)

tflns2-ge0-1-vl1.caneris.com

TF = Toronto/Front
LNS #2 = LNS #2 
ge0-1 = interface
vl1 = VLAN 1

> 
> Going forward, I'd like to examine a better method to identify the
> devices.... does anyone have published standards on what they use or
> that of other networks and maybe even why they chose those 
> methods?  
>
One of my colleagues has written an overview and pros/cons of the most common 
naming conventions (purpose, geographic, purpose+geographic, and "themes") at 
http://www.watson-wilson.ca/blog/name-conv.html. He's a systems guy, so it's 
not written in the context of net ops, but some of the ideas are common. 


> But what do folks do for "aggregation devices" such as 
> dial-up shelves,
> BAS devices etc?
> 
See my example at the top.

> 
> Finally, we have a fair amount of gear (that we own) at customer
> premises that act as either a managed device or a demarcation 
> point ....
> how to you name those today?
> 
Currently similarly to this:
MANAGED-DSL-1xxxx, where the 1xxxx is the account number. At the time it was 
decided to use this for no other reason than when a box/link goes down, it's 
trivial to find the customer/contacts in the OSS since the device name in the 
monitoring alert already has an account number embedded in it. Silly reason 
perhaps, but it's simple and it works.
 
> 
> Open ended questions obviously - looking for many ideas. 
> 
There are many ways of doing it and many factors to consider, I'll just throw 
some food for thought:
-Purpose / device type
-Geography 
-Hierarchical naming
-Scalability of the naming system
-DNS
-Humans - who's using the names and how? Reading/writing - how/frequency? What 
information do you want to convey (for obvious reason, this may vary greatly 
depending both on the target and the device)?
-Systems - what else is using your names or may be using your names in future? 
OSS/provisioning/monitoring/graphs for interfaces - automated? Limitations on 
character set and length of name, e.g. DNS, stupid switches with absurdly short 
max lengths of port description fields, etc. A regexp can come in handy to 
define this (and perhaps your entire naming scheme) precisely. In a 
heterogeneous environment, you have all sorts of stuff where you may have two 
or more names to refer to the same thing.
-Prefixes/suffixes
-Mergers and acquisitions - what happens when you have to merge your network 
with someone else's? Though I can see the value of prefixing, I don't like 
naming conventions which prefix everything with an abbreviation of the company 
for two reasons:
        -Typing extra keystrokes repeatedly every day for no reason isn't fun
        -Sorting/lists don't work nicely, especially when you would otherwise 
use a key to go down to the first letter of a name
-Traceroutes: I recall reading the slides from a NANOG presentation 
(unfortunately I don't recall the author's name and don't have a link now) 
which discussed naming devices in a traceroute-friendly way (friendly as in 
meaningful to those outside the org as well); you might want to find this.
-Finally, look at how others do it - there are plenty of examples

Erik

________________________________________
From: Paul Stewart [[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Network Naming Conventions

Hi Folks...



With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a
good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks.



Today, we use the following example:



Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net



Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location, ge1-1-1=interface, vl20=vlan etc
etc....



Going forward, I'd like to examine a better method to identify the
devices.... does anyone have published standards on what they use or
that of other networks and maybe even why they chose those methods?  The
core of the network is fairly easy for us to look at different changes
where you have interfaces, subinterfaces, locations etc. to deal with.



But what do folks do for "aggregation devices" such as dial-up shelves,
BAS devices etc?



Finally, we have a fair amount of gear (that we own) at customer
premises that act as either a managed device or a demarcation point ....
how to you name those today?



Open ended questions obviously - looking for many ideas.



;)



Paul








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