On May 20, 2010, at 9:13 PM, John Lee wrote:

> Some pseudo random thoughts and questions? (my BGP is rusty.)
> 
> 1. Does it violate your AUP with APNIC?
> 
Not if he has infrastructure in the remote location and infrastructure and/or 
HQ in APNIC region.

> 2. If the larger routing prefix is from APNIC will your upstream in the EMEA 
> region filter or black hole the sub prefix since it is from APNIC and not 
> RIPE and would appear to be a hijacked block? (In my experience in some 
> European countries "rules" are more strictly enforced than in other areas of 
> the globe. I will spare you the American, Russian and French standards 
> organization joke.)
> 
LoL... In my experience, the guys that are getting money from you will route 
what you want routed
unless they have reason to believe you are not legitimately entitled to route 
it.

> 3. It would appear that again since it is in an APNIC sub-prefix would you 
> need to "carry" the packets from a PoP in APNIC region to your facility in 
> the EMEA assuming the sub prefix is not large enough to be propagated in 
> normal BPG updates?
> 
If that is true, yes. i was assuming that he was using a sub-prefix length 
<=/24 for EMEA region. If he's trying to run a /25 or longer, then, life will 
indeed suck, but, not because of the RIR issues, because of the long-prefix 
problem.

> 4. And if the bits did get through for a period of time would the transit 
> provider determine that they did not want to carry them any more and add 
> filtering at any random point in time?
> 
Unlikely if it's a legitimate route.  It wouldn't appear any less legitimate 
than any other route and there are many inter-regional routes advertised just 
like this already that work just fine.

> These questions assume that you do not have a single transit provider that 
> covers both of your locations in the two different regions and can "custom 
> route" the packets.
> 
LoL

Owen

> John (ISDN) Lee
> ________________________________________
> From: Net [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Are there any policies set by internet registries and/or transit
> providers today that prohibits organizations from using a Partially
> used IP Block allocated in one region say AP through APNIC to be
> comissioned and Propagated in another region such as EMEA serviced by
> RIPE?.
> 
> Obv, the best approach would be to acquire a new Block in the 2nd
> region through its own registry, but sometimes due to strict
> prvisioning timelines, legal delays in getting the necessary approvals
> involved etc make this option less attractive. From an IPV4 space
> depletion perspective as well, it might be feasible if organizations
> having a large block in one region could split it amongst multiple
> regions to prevent Wastage.
> 
> Any thoughts/expereinces and feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
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