On May 20, 2010, at 9:13 PM, John Lee wrote: > Some pseudo random thoughts and questions? (my BGP is rusty.) > > 1. Does it violate your AUP with APNIC? > Not if he has infrastructure in the remote location and infrastructure and/or HQ in APNIC region.
> 2. If the larger routing prefix is from APNIC will your upstream in the EMEA > region filter or black hole the sub prefix since it is from APNIC and not > RIPE and would appear to be a hijacked block? (In my experience in some > European countries "rules" are more strictly enforced than in other areas of > the globe. I will spare you the American, Russian and French standards > organization joke.) > LoL... In my experience, the guys that are getting money from you will route what you want routed unless they have reason to believe you are not legitimately entitled to route it. > 3. It would appear that again since it is in an APNIC sub-prefix would you > need to "carry" the packets from a PoP in APNIC region to your facility in > the EMEA assuming the sub prefix is not large enough to be propagated in > normal BPG updates? > If that is true, yes. i was assuming that he was using a sub-prefix length <=/24 for EMEA region. If he's trying to run a /25 or longer, then, life will indeed suck, but, not because of the RIR issues, because of the long-prefix problem. > 4. And if the bits did get through for a period of time would the transit > provider determine that they did not want to carry them any more and add > filtering at any random point in time? > Unlikely if it's a legitimate route. It wouldn't appear any less legitimate than any other route and there are many inter-regional routes advertised just like this already that work just fine. > These questions assume that you do not have a single transit provider that > covers both of your locations in the two different regions and can "custom > route" the packets. > LoL Owen > John (ISDN) Lee > ________________________________________ > From: Net [[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Partial Use Of one Regions IP Block in another > > Hi folks, > > Are there any policies set by internet registries and/or transit > providers today that prohibits organizations from using a Partially > used IP Block allocated in one region say AP through APNIC to be > comissioned and Propagated in another region such as EMEA serviced by > RIPE?. > > Obv, the best approach would be to acquire a new Block in the 2nd > region through its own registry, but sometimes due to strict > prvisioning timelines, legal delays in getting the necessary approvals > involved etc make this option less attractive. From an IPV4 space > depletion perspective as well, it might be feasible if organizations > having a large block in one region could split it amongst multiple > regions to prevent Wastage. > > Any thoughts/expereinces and feedback would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > -- > Sent from my mobile device

