"...the cost of captial, and regulatory or monopoloy capture than it does with some artifical lack of price equilibrium."
now that sounds like fodder for a different list ;) On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote: > On 8/11/10 12:29 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > Nice to see this change.... > > > > APAC has been obliged to pay the cost to peer with the US (long > > distance links are expensive). Now that US wants to peer with Asia, > > pricing may become more balanced... > > I think the question is more like why am I being quoted $100 A megabit > in India for transit in India? Not why am I being charged for for the > transport cost across the pacific. > > The answer has more to do with the maturity of comms infrastructure, the > cost of captial, and regulatory or monopoloy capture than it does with > some artifical lack of price equilibrium. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ulevitch" > > <da...@ulevitch.com> To: na...@merit.edu Sent: Thursday, 12 August, > > 2010 7:00:12 AM Subject: Cost of transit and options in APAC > > > > Hi Nanog, > > > > As we extend our reach into Asia, we're finding that our typical > > carriers (see: upstreams of AS36692) who provide service to us in > > North America and Europe are not able to offer us service in Asia > > either (1) at all or (2) at prices remotely resembling our pricing > > in NA and EU. For example: Level(3) simply has no presence in Asia > > and on the pricing side, NTT, GBLX, Verizon and others' pricing is > > many times higher than their NA and EU pricing. In most cases, it's > > 10 or more times higher. > > > > Additionally, some of the networks seem to market their network > > based on their reach into the US, rather than their reach into actual > > users in Asia, which is what we're looking for. > > > > So my question is, what are non-APAC-based networks doing as they > > expand into Asia for transit beyond peering with whomever will peer > > with them to get close to actual users in Asia? > > > > Are people using regional carriers? Are people just paying the > > "crazy" (compared to US pricing) bandwidth costs? Are people doing > > peering-only setups out there? Any help would be useful -- > > hopefully this is on-topic for NANOG, which I think it is, since I'm > > curious how NA operators deal with these challenges as they expand > > into APAC. > > > > I'm happy to summarize responses later if there is interest. > > > > Thanks, David > > > > > > > -- Respectfully, Chris Hart Developer / System Administrator Insuremonkey.com 2080 E. Flamingo, Suite 223 Las Vegas, NV 89119