On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:01 PM, david raistrick wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, Antonio Querubin wrote:
> 
>>> -entire- end to end IP network, it will be significantly broken significant 
>>> amounts of the time.
>> 
>> Which points to the need for service providers to deploy robust multicast 
>> routing.
> 
> No doubt - it also points to multicast itself needing a bit more sanity and 
> flexibility for implimentation.   When you have to tune -every- l3 device 
> along the path for each stream, well....
> 
It's not quite that bad. I've done multiple multicast implementations where 
this was utterly unnecessary, but, it does take
some configuration on most L3 devices to make it work reasonably well.

> 
> As Owen pointed out, perhaps carriers will eventually be motivated to make 
> this happen in order to reduce their own bandwidth costs.  Eventually.
> 
> In the meantime, speaking with my content hat on, we stick with unicast. :)
> 
Wrong answer, IMHO. Where it makes sense, use multicast with a fast fallback to 
unicast if multicast isn't working.
In this way, it helps build the case that deploying multicast will save $$$. 
Without it, the mantra will be "Multicast
doesn't matter, even if we implement it, none of the content will use it."

Owen


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