John,

Thanks for the update. With regards to offering a hosted solution, as you know 
that is the only thing the RIPE NCC currently offers. We're developing support 
for the up/down protocol as I write this.

To give you some perspective, one month after launching the hosted RIPE NCC 
Resource Certification service, 216 LIRs are using it in the RIPE Region and 
created 169 ROAs covering 467 prefixes. This means 40151 /24 IPv4 prefixes and 
7274499 /48 IPv6 prefixes now have a valid ROA associated with them.

I realize a hosted solution is not ideal, we're very open about that. But at 
least in our region, it seems there are quite a number of organizations who 
understand and accept the security trade-off of not being the owner of the 
private key for their resource certificate and trust their RIR to run a 
properly secured and audited service. So the question is, if the RIPE NCC would 
have required everyone to run their own certification setup using the open 
source tool-sets Randy mentions, would there be this much certified address 
space now? 

Looking at the depletion of IPv4 address space, it's going to be crucially 
important to have validatable proof who is the legitimate holder of Internet 
resources. I fear that by not offering a hosted certification solution, real 
world adoption rates will rival those of IPv6 and DNSSEC. Can the Internet 
community afford that?

Alex Band
Product Manager, RIPE NCC

P.S. For those interested in which prefixes and ASs are in the RIPE NCC ROA 
Repository, here is the latest output in CSV format:
http://lunimon.com/valid-roas-20110129.csv



On 24 Jan 2011, at 21:33, John Curran wrote:

> Copy to NANOG for those who aren't on ARIN lists but may be interested in 
> this info.
> FYI.
> /John
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net<mailto:jcur...@arin.net>>
> Date: January 24, 2011 2:58:52 PM EST
> To: "arin-annou...@arin.net<mailto:arin-annou...@arin.net>" 
> <arin-annou...@arin.net<mailto:arin-annou...@arin.net>>
> Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update
> 
> ARIN continues its preparations for offering production-grade resource 
> certification
> services for Internet number resources in the region.  ARIN recognizes the 
> importance
> of Internet number resource certification in the region as a key element of 
> further
> securing Internet routing, and plans to rollout Resource Public Key 
> Infrastructure (RPKI)
> at the end of the second quarter of 2011 with support for the Up/Down 
> protocol for those
> ISPs who wish to certify their subdelegations via their own RPKI 
> infrastructure.
> 
> ARIN continues to evaluate offering a Hosting Resource Certification service 
> for this
> purpose (as an alternative to organizations having to run their own RPKI 
> infrastructure),
> but at this time it remains under active consideration and is not committed.  
>  We look
> forward to discussing the need for this type of service and the organization 
> implications
> atour upcoming ARIN Members Meeting in April in San Juan, PR.
> 
> FYI,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
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