On Thursday, February 03, 2011 05:30:15 pm Jay Ashworth wrote:
> C'mon; this isn't *your* first rodeo, either.  From the viewpoint of 
> The Internet, *my edge router* is The Node 

Isn't that where this thing all started, with ARPAnet 'routers' on those leased 
lines?

End-to-end is in reality, these days, AS-to-AS.  Beyond that, each AS can do 
whatever it wants with those packets; if it wants to insert the full text of 
the Niagara Falls skit (with copyright owner's permission) into every packet, 
it can do that, and no other AS can make it do differently.

Sure, it would be nice in ways to have full end to end at the individual host 
level, everybody has static addresses and domain names are free and address 
space at the /64 level is portable to kingdom come and back without routing 
table bloat.... 

NAT in IPv4 came about because people were doing it, and the standards were 
after the fact.  Deja Vu, all over again.

Make it easy to do what people want to do, but without NAT, perhaps 
overloading, port-translating NAT66 won't get traction.

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