In message <aanlktinvbcodxicqhmclop7qg3mh4388mrp1uevvk...@mail.gmail.com>, Will iam Herrin writes: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-k...@utc.edu> wrote: > > On 3/11/2011 8:24 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > >> --- b...@herrin.us wrote: > >> From: William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> > >> > >> No, it isn't. Contrary to mailing list best practices, NANOG > >> unsubscribe information is stubbornly stashed in the email headers > >> ---------------------------------------------- > >> > >> That's a feature. =A0Not a bug. =A0:-) > > > > Actually, it's RFC 2369 =A0:) > > Anyone have a list of MUAs that actually support RFC 2369 with > subscription management widgets in the GUI? Surely someone has written > one but I can't seem to find any documentation to that effect. > > On the other hand, the very first guideline at > http://www.mail-abuse.com/an_listmgntgdlines.html is: > "Mailing list administrators must provide [...] clear and effective > instructions for unsubscribing from a mailing list." Hidden in the > headers is rather less than clear or effective. > > Even that lightweight, the CAN-SPAM act, calls for each message to > contain "clear and conspicuous notice of the opportunity [...] to > decline to receive further" messages.
Headers are the ONLY way to do this so it works in all languages for all the planet. "Click here to unsubscribe" is a joke when it is written in a language you don't read. As for the CAN-SPAM act, it's also a joke. It doesn't require a pre-existing relationship where there is a chance the recipient can read the message. > -Bill > > > --=20 > William D. Herrin ................ her...@dirtside.com=A0 b...@herrin.us > 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> > Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 > -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
