Subject: Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:56:37PM +0000 Quoting Paul Vixie (vi...@isc.org):
> :-). > > to be clear, the old pre-web T1 era internet did not have much content > but what content there was, was not lopsided. other than slip and ppp > there weren't a lot of networks one would call "access" and a smaller > number of networks one would call "content". i am not wishing for that, > i like the web, i like content, i know there will be specialized networks > for access and content. but i also think (as jim gettys does) that we > ought to be able to get useful work done without being able to reach the > whole internet all the time. that's going to mean being able to reach > other mostly-access networks in our same neighborhoods and multitenant > buildings and towns and cities, directly, and by name. it does not mean > being able to start facebook 2.0 out of somebody's basement, but it does > mean being able to run a personal smtp or web server in one's basement > and have it mostly work for the whole internet and work best for accessors > who are close by and still work even when the "upstream" path for the > neighborhood is down. Now I seem to have got time enough to fully agree with you. The next facebook will start in a low-price datacenter. These facilities did not exist as products before, and it can be argued that the access/content separation does drive that market -- as long as I had working Internet (as opposed to access class "Internet" ) at home, I had no use for a colo. Still, the centralization of content into a few networks does raise a number of issues -- mostly regarding stability. Do note here that several factors negatively impact stability, be they technical, economical or legal. Peter Löthberg long ago advocated a network interconnection model that was pretty local (and I believe he still does). Peer often and everywhere. That would take care of packets getting through (as long as we all have unique addresses to point at; v6 fixes this) The services that take the Net from being a graph problem for nerds with BGP CLI access into what it has become need to undergo similar fine-graining to keep up. Oh, sorry, got carried away. -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 My life is a patio of fun!
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