> -----Original Message-----
> From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Verisign Internet Defence Network
> 
> Sounds like a catch-22 though; if it's not always on and only starts
> scrubbing after an attack begins (pending activation approval from the
> customer which may take time), then the customer site is quite possibly
> already down when they start doing their thing to make it come back up.

Well that's exactly how it works in most cases.  Customers don't usually avail 
of these types of services until there is a problem, which usually means their 
site is down in most cases.  This is why having proper visibility is key as 
they can serve as an early warning system giving indication of an impending 
attack prior to it becoming big enough to bring the site down (usually it takes 
several minutes to ramp up the attack during the time the bots receive 
instruction-set from the bot herder).

The problem with an always-on mitigation service is that there are additional 
latencies involved in the redirection (assuming it's not in-line), not to 
mention the inspections/proxying/filtering that the mitigation devices perform. 
 Note that these latencies will be substantially less on an on-net service 
offering like Verizon's whereas they can be substantially higher on an off-net 
service offering from folks like Verisign/Prolexic, etc.  These latencies are 
generally acceptable when a site is under attack, but not desired under normal 
circumstances.

Stefan Fouant
JNCIE-M #513, JNCIE-ER #70, JNCI
GPG Key ID: 0xB4C956EC


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